Yoshi and Trek
Training Diary - September 2008
By Ellen Clary
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Sun Sep 28
Cone
head day 2. He can now mostly maneuver around the house and yard
and can even go up and down the stairs smoothly.
I did give him a dropperful of Pet Calm and for the afternoon while we were at the SF MOMA
Frida Khalo exhibit (which was great), we put him in the kitchen with a
couple of pads to sleep on (since he can't fit in his crate or even a
snuggler) and a bowl of water. We ran longer so Jan was nice
enough to come let them out to pee.
Trek is leery of him being a conehead and doesn't seem to understand
the concept of payback for all the hazing of him she did when she was
the conehead. (See the: I'm just a crash test dummy photo).
I've been pondering UC Davis and while I'm quite open to taking him the
dramatic success of the Pet Calm is making me thing that I should first
have Creature Comfort (a holistic vet practice that he's been to
before) have a crack at coming up with an herbal solution that will
work well for him. I need to look up what we were giving him for
a while but I don't remember it having the dramatic effect. I
also need to read more about Valerian. This article here says:
The mechanism of action of valerian in
general, as a mild sedative in particular, remains unknown. Valerian
extracts appear to have some affinity for the GABAA (benzodiazepine)
receptor,[1][2] but this activity does not appear to be mediated by
valerenic acid, but rather by the relatively high content of
γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA) itself.
And I just discovered that the NIH tracks Valerian and has quite possibly the most over-the-top thorough web page on it here
It's going to take me days to go through it but one quote caught my eye:
Can valerian be harmful?
Few adverse events attributable to valerian have been reported for clinical study participants.
Sat Sep 27
The Day After.
What a week, I'll have to work back through this whole week to fill in the gaps.
Today we took Yoshi into the vet to have a look at the hole that Trek
put in his leg. They shaved it and had to cut the flesh back a
little so it was fresh because it was starting to heal open (not good). They
understood about the day delay as I had made the appt yesterday and had
explained then why he wasn't coming in that day because we were getting
married. He now has staples in his leg and managed to open the
wound while still in the lobby with me paying the bill. I had
glanced at it just as we were about ready to leave and saw that it
looked strange and asked for a tech to come have a look. The tech
was amazed as it turned out that he had opened it. They took him
back in, restapled it and he was then sporting a temporary e-collar
till we got home.
Good thing we had them put a collar on him as we tried the blowup donut
collar and he could still reach his leg, so he is gets to keep the
e-collar on for two weeks. Ugh. He can't get into his crate
so I pulled out the crate and am putting just a mat down. I think
while we're at work he's going to have to be in an ex-pen in the
kitchen as he's not currently coping as well as Captain Crash Trek
did. It's so sad, he runs into something and just stops.
He's learning to back up and try again but he's really not picking it
up (a few hours later he started to cope better.)
I tried giving him just one dropperful of the Pet Calm and it took the
edge off maybe a little, but he was still a drama-queen stress case at
the vets.
I guess this means no herding for him for a couple of weeks.
Which means for 4 weeks as Trek has 2 agility trials after that.
I'm still pondering what the correct response is if he goes back to
bullying her after the cone is off. I need to come up with
something that stops it immediately. Things that fit that
category are:
- water spray
- citronella or other harmless spray
- blowing air
- binaca in the mouth if you're brave
- I don't think shouting YO-SHI would work, but if there is a next
time and I grab him I can yell his name at him and see if it breaks his
focus.
Things I know that won't work well are physical violence that induce
pain to the dog. I certainly have grabbed him roughly at times
and sometimes squeezed his ear or muzzle and that just increases his
agitation. What you need is something that interrupts things
immediately. People who have hurt their dogs, sometimes get the
aggressive dog turning on them. Yoshi has never, ever been
aggressive to a human (beyond barking at them) and I want it to stay
that way.
I need to check if it's ok to use Pet Calm on a regular basis.
Park Centre (my vets) really want him to see the behaviorists at UC
Davis and I think we'll do that, but it's $350 (plus a half day off
work) and I've put so much money into him that I want to think about it
first though I'll likely do it eventually.
Fri Sep 26
We got married today in the backyard. There were 10 of us
total. The dogs did great, and Yoshi was a gentleman and I get to
take some credit for it as it the middle of the night I remembered that
we still had some Pet Calm which does a great job of mellowing him
out. Pet Calm has Valerian, Hops, Chamomile, Passion Flower and
Skull Cap. I gave him 2 dropperfuls which under normal
circumstances makes him want to sleep, but in this higher stress
environment he stayed awake. In the morning we took photos of him
in his tie and Trek with her flowers and ring bearer necklace.
Then before all the guests arrived he went into his crate and stayed
there for the ceremony until we took him out again for group photos.
Right in the middle of the ceremony he started alarm barking and Jan
went to check (our appointed manager with her husband Mark who was
hanging on to Trek). Soon after, the barking stopped and I didn't
think anything about it until she later told us that a neighbor's CAT
had walked in the house through the open back door. This cat has
never tried such a thing, and Jan got the cat out by judicious opening
and closing of doors. Phew.
Trek the ring bearer was the great unknown. She normally has an
excellent recall but when things are stressful she sometimes just melts
in place or runs off a short distance to where she thinks it's
safe. She did great. Mark walked her up to with in a few
feet of us and I said "Trek here" and she immediately came to me.
I took the ribbon necklace which held the rings off her and handed her
back to Mark. What a pro.
This morning I woke up and saw some blood on his left leg that we
hadn't seen before. Turns out that Trek had taken quite a good
chomp out of him when they had that agument on Wed that I wasn't there
for. Terri had pulled them apart and noticed that Trek was
hanging on to his leg but we hadn't seen any blood till this
morning. When I called to make an appointment for tomorrow, when
I explained the wound they were a little surprised that I didn't want
to get him in today. I said "Well you see, I'm getting married
today." "Oh! Well try to keep him from messing with it." I kept putting neosporin on it.
Thu Sep 25
I'm getting married tomorrow so this week has been very busy (see the Non-Dog Blog for more detail).
The dogs have been coping sort of and we're doing as best we can to help them feel more comfortable.
Yoshi gets to greet people outside and then invite them in (he has very mixed emotions about this.)
He will spend the ceremony in a crate. Trek has a minor but important role as ring bearer.
After we took this photo, cute as it was, we decided to turn the
flowers into something that was more collar-like which has a much
higher chance of succeeding.
So yesterday and today Yoshi pushed the non-combative Trek into a
fight. What a fool - don't pick fights with girls they finish
them. What's been happening is that he gets amped up about
someone at the door and offsets his frustration onto her or he gets
unhappy about her cutting him off when he wants access to one of
us. He starts snarling and screaming and pushes her down (though
really makes no contact.) This is until we get there and toss him
(often pretty roughly) into his crate, which ends it. She's been
putting up with it but you just knew there was a limit to her patience
with her somewhat miswired housemate.
Well Wed when I wasn't home, Terri called Trek over for her eye drops
(this happens 4x/day), and Trek didn't come, not thinking anything was
amiss,Terri called her again and it turned out that Yoshi was blocking
the doorway. Trek tried to get by Yoshi and he exploded.
Terri didn't see what happened, but when she got there she pulled Yoshi
off of Trek, and in her haste to get him off of her and in his crate,
she didn't notice until she picked him up that Trek had clamped firmly
onto his leg. She kept going thinking that Trek would release but
she hung on and a tearing wound resulted. This didn't look too
bad till Friday (see the Friday entry.)
On Thur he again went off on her, but this time I saw the whole
thing. My sister Anne and her husband Russ were visiting which
had his stress level up (though he was coping). We were all
standing in the living room perhaps getting ready to go somewhere when
there was some activity outside and Yoshi alarm barked and started to
the window. I had called him back to me and he was most of the
way back but Trek was in his way trying to get to me. He snarled
nastily and charged her, she dropped down, I grabbed him immediately by
the scruff and held onto him instead of crating him as I wanted to
watch more. As I lifted him up, Trek bites his pants and pulls
fur out but that's it. He (even though he has what he wants)
keeps screaming at her, with an impressive intensity and his heart rate
is maxed out. Then he suddenly chills out. I forget what I
did then probably crated him. I have to ponder what to do about
this. In the meantime, I put the citronella spray out at both
doors.
Sun Sep 21
Yoshi private lesson with Kienan.
He is able to tolerate dogs running a playing fetch at 100' which is
way better than he used to be but any dog approaching he reacts to.
Kienan noticed that I use my body language a lot and that my body language is very pronounced.
She's wondering if we can reduce that.
The scheme is
At home
- he looks at me
- I throw a treat
- when he looks at me again
- throw another treat
- etc
The idea is that the treat throwing allows his another oppertunity to
get another reward since he has to take his attention off me.
When this is working start throwing the treats to the sides, and then even behind me.
Then change the setting and start over.
On walks if he sees a dog drop several treats on his head.
Fri Sep 19
Big doggy day.
Yoshi attends Lori's class.
I've been taking him to the Utility class as the dog's are more solid
and there are fewer of them. Last time I just had him eating
cream cheese in a crate. This time I had him participating in the
initial heeling stuff. He did terrific. He was even fine
around Steinway a large black Bouvier des Flanders who is
non-reactive. He does best when he has a job and he was happy to
heel all around the space worried a bit about the door, but got through
it.
When we were outside waiting to go in he tried to react to an exiting
medium size Terrier so I had to pull up on the Gentle Leader and say
"Leave It" and we walked on. He recovered quickly and did have
any outbursts the rest of the time. I was able to interrupt his
staring with slight pressure on the GL and Leave It.
When the dogs started working on specific things that used all the
space (articles, gloves) I took him out to the car and let him
rest. I needed to rest too as paying 100% attention to him for an
hour is tough work (the classes are 1.5 hours).
I spoke with Lori about what our next step should be now that it seems he can hold it together in these situations.
We discussed controlled exposures to other dogs (which are not meetings
but are at a semi close distance where someone like Terri holds Yoshi
(maybe plays LAT) and other other dog's owner has their dog on a
sit-stay and I walk over and greet the other dog.
I think I'm going to start taking him back to Wed night obedience
class. For recalls we'll start out a short distance (6') and work
from there. For the sits and downs we'll use the far corner and
I'll have his back to the door initially (which will be hard for him as
he worries about the door) and then part of the way through will turn
him around.
Lori empasized that even if he has a meltdown to keep him in the
situation until I get him back which I can do pretty quickly (then we
can leave if I think it's wise) The idea is that having a
meltdown doesn't get him out of the situation, being connected and
working does.
Trek Agility Class.
She was pretty distracted by the treats on the ground. I actually
took the rare step of throwing a toy at her to get her attention off
the ground. It didn't hit her but instead hit thejump that was inbetween us making noise and that worked.
I'm entering her in the Haute Dawgs and CAT October agility
trials. It's not that I think she's going to qualify much (she
still runs past obstacles sometimes and that's a refusal in USDAA and
AKC), but it's the start of the 2009 season and I want her to take
part. I think I'm just sick of being on the sidelines.
She's driving better at jumps so I can rear cross. Rachelle had
me try waiting till she had mostly gone over the jump to throw the toy
and this time to throw it to the side where you want her to turn
instead of through the jump uprights. This worked. No spins.
Thu Sep 18
Back to working on Trek's screaming kids fear.
I took Trek back to Krusi park and there were soccer practices going in
full swing. I went through a whole bunch of steps. We were
parked by the practice. In the truck with the door open, then
door closed, then window up, then radio on, her in my arms, her not in
my arms, me petting her belly, me just leaving her alone. Her
stress just kept
increasing. Stress panting, trying to find a safe place in the
truck (though I wouldn't let her go back in the crate). But still
willing to eat. I finally moved the truck
further away and she got better (about 150-200' away.) Then we
started walking around and she clearly wanted nothing to do with it
(the kids were being pretty loud.) We walked around the block and
stopped at a grassy area and she was semi ok, but we were a football
field away at least. Dismayed, I took her back to the truck and
we went home.
Then on the drive back, it occurred to me that her response is exactly
how she is around a dog fight. She wants to get away. I
thought about what screaming kids sound like. DUH! THEY SOUND
LIKE A DOG FIGHT. I felt like a total heel and apologized to
Trek. I don't think I really need to solve this problem though I
do want her used to kids and used to other types of chaos that she's
likely to come across while traveling and competing in agility.
I'm off tomorrow so maybe we'll check out the kids walking to school
(maybe even walk with them or sort near them). No, that's too
much, we'll stick with meeting individual kids on walks.
Just as an experiment, I had her in my lap and I put on some You Tube
videos of yelling kids (citations not included out of mercy).
Didn't phase her at all. I had to work to stay relaxed.
Terri came in wondering what the heck was going on, and said it was
making her stressed too even with seeing what it was about. For
both of our sakes I turned it off, and Trek kept dozing in my lap.
Wed Sep 17
On my way home from work I cruised by a couple of parks looking for
passels of children that I could show to Trek. There was a soccer
practice going on at Krusi Field, so I went home and got her. By
the time we got there, that practice was over (a good thing, it turned out)
but there was still some folks playing baseball and people wandering
around and a father and son playing catch nearby.
First thing I notice is that she won't get out of the crate It
may have been something she heard or she's reading my mind, but after her
not moving I decided to wait a little bit (so I'm not rewarding her for
staying in the crate and then with no fanfare just toss down a treat
about a foot in front of the crate. She comes out looking
apprehensive. We cross the residental street to get to the park
and she notices someone working on a car (making some noise) about 200'
away. She wants to drag me back to the truck. I let her in
a controlled manner. She looks crestfallen that the truck isn't
open. I start to just slowly feed her. She's stressed as
she's chomping on me which from her is a sure sign of stress. We
watch the father and son for a little bit and then go across the
street. We sit on the bleachers and I fed her more. Then we
started to walk but a family was approaching and she was freaked out a
bit so I walked her further away - 150' or so, and we were able to play
LAT and just watch them as they walked.
When they had moved on I brought her back to a bench and she sat in my
lap and ate treats and I rubbed her neck. She's more relaxed, but
still worried. Her initial response was almost agoraphobic (fear
of open spaces), but I think it was the noises that bothered her
although I notice that the baseball game of mostly adults didn't seem
to bother her that much though they were futher away. I can see
that we're going to make a habit of this. She was able to
concentrate enough to work on sits, fronts and watch.
It occurs to me that if she's comfortable in the car that maybe we
should do something like Yoshi and I did where we watched scary things
from the car and ate peanut butter.
Tue Sep 16
Yoshi walk. Since the Clomicalm has such a short half life (less
than 24 hours, sometimes even less that 12), it's already out of his
system, so I'm watching his behavior pretty carefully. Hard to
tell, he seemed to be scanning more and possibly reacting faster, but I
was also pushing him some by walking around the outside of the school
(common dog walking area). He saw a Dalmation sitting by his
person across the street and back in a school yard and didn't react
when I said "There's a dog." and he went right into LAT. It
helped that the dog wasn't moving. I did get quite the mega over
threshold reaction when the owner of what appeared to be a small PWDX
was not only just across the street but headed briskly, directly for us
even though Yoshi was starting to have a meltdown. I quickly
scooped him up and carried him football style out of the way (one hand
in his collar, the other around his ribs with him tucked under my
arm). He was trying to struggle, but I would blow on his ears and
he'd immediately stop and look at me, I'd say "good boy" then in a
beat, he'd go back to struggling and whining about the approaching dog,
and we'd repeat the whole thing till he settled down. Evil person
that I am I make him walk with the dog for a bit while I chatted with
the owner. If the dog was still he was fine. If the dog
moved he wanted to tackle the dog, which got him more collar holding
and blowing (which is a great mild adversive that Trish King taught me
that immediately breaks his focus and makes him reorient to me and earn
a treat if he can maintain). Later saw another dog from a
distance that he didn't react to.
Since the school sidewalks are wide, we also worked a fair bit on
heeling, watch, whiplash turns, fronts, by me, some downs. He
does better when he has a job though it doesn't keep him from reacting.
So I think we're not too bad off. I decided not to test out he
losing it around Trek (a behavior I'd like to so go completely away)
even though Cathy was coming over tonight to watch The Wire with
us. For coming and going transitions, I kept him on leash.
In the spirit of tell me what to do, he really does better on
leash. In fact, all of the situations where he's lost it and
chased (or even sometime bit) a dog (Terriers), has been when he's off
leash. Wish I understood why he has it out for Terriers.
Repeated exposure doesn't seem to help that much probably because most
Terriers aren't very nice.
i was thinking about the structure of the next time I take him herding
and I think what we'll do is some time in the round pen to let him blow
off some steam and work on control with or without the long line since
the pen is small and we do pretty well in it and can even work on
directionals and stops/down there.
Then we can work on just being around sheep without losing his mind.
If that's too close we can go outside the pen and work up to it.
Lori's class is this Friday. He's going to the utility class
(1pm) and we're going to be playing the part of distraction. He's
far enough along that he likely doesn't have to be in a crate, but can
instead work on heeling while the other dogs do utility
exercises. Have to remember to get more treats for that and
Trek's class on Friday also.
Worked with Trek and the soccer ball. She's getting pretty good at bopping it with her nose.
Mon Sep 15
I had to work late today so not much dog training.
I asked the corgiherders Yahoo Group what to do with Mr
I-herd-at-110mph and got some excellent feedback (I showed them the
videos that Diane took of us which really helped). I've archived off
the whole discussion into a mailbox (and it's on the Yahoo groups
archives too). I summarized it right at the end:
So here is Yoshi and I's list of things to work on in herding. Let me
know if I've left something out.
- stop running courses for a while and just work on basics
- when herding, keep moving (in arcs) which keeps him busy and doing a
job rather than him running in circles
- find a way to get him be able to spend time around sheep while being
calm (on leash to begin with)
(opinions on how to do this vary widely - I have a list of things to
try and some ideas of my own)
- see if I can use Control Unleashed exercises to help him with the
above. Given that CU is all about
breaking things down into small steps that the dog can handle, this
could likely work very well -
I'll ask the Control Unleashed Yahoo Group (CU_Dogs) if anyone has
tried it with a working dog rather that
just a dog they want to teach to not chase stock.
So thank you all very much and let me know if I've left anything out
Ellen Clary
and "I will learn to behave calmly around sheep" Yoshi and Agile Trek
Terrasita did add that her dogs spend a long time dragging a long
line. Yoshi did too and I should go back to that, but double its
length and maybe wear gloves so I can gradually slow him down instead
of having to step on it and worry about snapping his neck as he goes
flying.
Sun Sep 14
I spent the who
weekend working on the yard but something of note is
that Yoshi's been lashing out at Trek in close exciting quarters such
as the door (offsetting his excitment and frustration onto her).
He hasn't made contact (just makes the horrible sounding attack sounds
and pins her down with his body), but I'm sick of it and peace in the
household is paramount and I'm mega protective of sweet Trek. I
was told to watch
out for any increase in agression with Clomicalm and it's funny that in
most cases he has a longer fuse, but not in this case. Since
Clomicalm is intended as a short term medicine we're going to try
taking him off of it to see what changes.
[evening]
Worked on go to crate when the door knocks. They now are wise to
me knocking - even loudly, so I'll have to get Terri to stand outside
and try it.
Sat Sep 13
Yoshi walk. So if I see the dog and initiate LAT from a
comfortable distance (3 house widths) things work (saw the lab down the
street), but later a dog across the street just appeared and I din't
see it ahead of time. He had a barking fit and wouldn't listen to
YO-SHI (4x) until I had gotten him a house distance away and the dog
had walked on. So we're much further than we were (even had a dog
in a car bark at us and he was ok), he still needs a fair bit of
management. Almost like he needs someone to tell him it's ok.
His in the house recalls away from a simuli in the window are really
good (YO-SHI repeated), but I haven't pushed on that to see if there's
an actual dog walking by (the worst for him) or if it's just a dog he
hears.
Fri Sep 12
Trek Class. The big news was that given her 18" breaking and
entering jumping, I know that she is quite capable of jumping 12" part
of the time and that making her think about her jumping may well help
her jump form. Tonight when we were doing small courses on the
lower field (which is much smaller and is on grass), I had her jump
12." Her form was much better and she didn't seem to be
struggling though it clearly took her more effort (and she was a little
slower though not much). When we went up to the upper field
(larger and on dirt) we went back to 8," and her speed came right back.
In the upper field Trek and I spent a lot of time working on the Teeter
both during courses and afterward. She's still hesitant about it
but less so but if we try to do it at speed she'll jump off it on the
ascending part before it tips. If I stay with her and encourage
her and sometimes lure with treats, she'll do it and during the time we
were working on it got less and less hesitant. I notice that it's
still set to the slightly lowered height that I set it to last week
which was nice.
Wed Sep 10
Dog Walks with unexpected results.
Yoshi had 3 different dog sitings. One was two JRTs walking ahead
of us and across the street. We tried to catch up but never
really did though got within LAT range. The second one was a
Dalmation at the school and we played LAT quite a bit from across the
street. The dog came closer and he was able to tolerate that. I
was thrilled and we were headed home when a neighbor's Rott being
walked by some of the kids in that family suddenly came into view
across the street. He started to react and I tightened the Gentle
Leader, and then said his name in that emphatic way I was working on
yesterday. I had his immediate, full attention. I was
shocked but had the wherewithall to tell him "Here" to get him to come
and sit in front of me. Good Dog.
Trek on the other hand is telling me that she has some issues of her
own to work through. While she's fine with individual children,
school has started up again and there were passels of very ampped
playing children. She was trying to drag me away. Instead,
to find out where her threshold is I made her cross the street to get
closer and she was no happy at all - though would still eat - sort
of. Screaming children distance appears to be about 150' or
more. Guss out walks are going to go near the elementary school
now. I'll have to go back to the martingale and she was just
about breaking my hand with the flexi when I shortened it. I
don't even know if she can have medium amounts of cream cheese - we'll
have to see.
Made a very short video of Trek leaping over the 18" fence that surrounds the new lawn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuqevVfiNS0
Some of the footage was lost because the tape I was using was not playing back correctly.
Tue Sep 9
From a CU_Dogs post
>I'm thinking more positively and creatively this morning.
Sorry for hijacking your post into a tangent, but I also woke up this
morning and realized that I was tired of trying to train for a proper
door bell response. I took the doorbell out. ;)
Such a relief and I'll just work on door knocking which has a less
charged response.
Ellen Clary
and Corgis Yoshi and Trek
Alameda, CA
I have finally worked out a reliable method for calling Yoshi back from
barking at the living room window (though I haven't tested it with a
dog walking by. This method I've been sort of using for
while now but only in the past few days have I realized that I needed
to really commit to it rather than just acquiescing to it. It was
hard for me as it goes against what I've been taught.
It involves repeating the command, emphatically and in the she who will be obeyed voice.
bark, bark, bark, bark...
Yo-Shi
bark, bark
YO-SHI
(sort of hears) bark, bark
YO-SHI
bark, whine, whine, whine, starts to come
(This is a very pathetic crying whine, but it means that he's about to
do what you ask, but he's telling you that it's really hard.)
YO-SHI
he's coming now, but can easily get distracted at this moment - bit of
A.D.D. or something - this is a mistake I kept making for months and
he'd go right back to barking
YO-SHI
(repeat every count of 2 or 3 until he gets to you.)
Good boy! Let's get a goodie (or he gets a massage - which he likes)
The main point is this is not yoshiyoshiyoshiyoshi, it's YO-SHI (one and two and) YO-SHI...
He also was stressing some still about a dog barking from a distance
(we were inside) and came to Terri, so I taught her about rubbing his
neck and telling him to relax and continuing to massage his neck until
he really did relax (which he can do these days as the combination of
"relax" and the massage is truely a cue for him to relax - it's funny
you can see it take over almost involuntarily - his eyes close and his
head droops). Within a few minutes he was stretched out on the
floor with her. It was fun to watch.
Also did some mat work, and go to crate work when the door
knocks. Worked with each dog separately. Yoshi does better
when I recall him like above, and then walk him to his crate.
Trek figures the game out pretty fast (goodies appear when you're in
the crate) and won't even budge from her crate even when the door
knocks. Now it's time to add chaos - we'll have Terri go out and
knock on the door.
Sun Sep 7
So
Miss Thang has been jumping over the temporary fence that protects the
new lawn. I finally measured said fence. 18"! And she
can clear it with a one step run at it and I've seen her clear this
exact pole where I took the picture. She has really good form
when she does it (jack rabbit like boing - it's pretty impressive) and
it may actually be strengthening her back legs. The grass is well
enough established that I've started letting her in there under
supervision so hopefully the allure will subside.
Walkies. Yoshi's was very productive with 4 different dog
sitings. I'm beginning to wonder if he can handle or would ever
prefer to do something while a dog walks by instead of sitting and
eating, so I've been trying to work in heeling and "watch." As
expected, I got mixed results. He still wants to posture at the
dog(s), but I have hold of him by either the GL leash or a hand on his
collar. I say "watch" (as in watch me) and he looks at me, and
then immediately looks back hard (not a LAT type of look), tensing to
react. I blow on him to get his attention (some times saying a
neutral "no") (maybe say "watch" again) and reward him. Once I've
got him back I think tell him to LAT ("look") and we play that while
the dog goes by. A couple times we just turned around and
parallel walked with the other dog until it started to feel creepy and
then we'd break off and go somewhere else. I think we would up
walking up and down a section of Central Ave. three times.
While not perfect this is a whole lot better than he used to be, and it
feels like a way to work past the plateau we'd hit. Also, I did
have him practice heeling on the walk, but not around other dogs as he
seemed too distracted for that.
Trek's walk revealed that kids playing loudly with a bouncing beach
ball terrifies her. She was shaking trying to drag me away.
Once we were out of harm's way (her fears were not unfounded), we
stopped and I fed her. Even though she was shaking, and wasn't
happy about not getting further away from the mayhem, she would
eat. We then moved on and in a block she was fine.
Fri Sep 5
Agility practice. I started later as the terrier owners Carol and
Vina wanted to rent the field at 6:15, so we started just after 7:15.
I think Trek heard me say that Yoshi is the most talented agility dog
in the house and so today she made it clear that she wanted that to
change. Yoshi was distracted and a little freaky by the darkness
and the night sounds so we only did a little agility and spent a fair
bit of time just walking around the field on leash. Him being
spooky makes me uncomfortable when he's off leash as he has proven his
bad judgment before.
Trek's jump sequencing is getting much better. She will drive
ahead more. Her 12 pole weaves are way better (her on my left is
perfect, her on my right is great and I only have to encourage her to
stay in them on the 10th pole, and even though Sharon had the noisy,
scary teeter out I lowered it and she was able to do it for the most
part (though still would jump off the first time, for a few times.)
In October, there are the first two of the local(ish) 2009 USDAA
qualifying season trials. Trek isn't ready yet, but she's close
and could be ready in a month so I'm going to enter her. (These are a
Haute Dawgs and CAT trials).
[that night]
Trek wanted to do something so I took her into the living room got a
nylon string guitar out that Terri leaves out and just started quietly
playing it and occasionally throwing treats on the floor. While
she wasn't happy about it she keep coming back for goodies. For a
CU dog I wouldn't ever take such big steps but she'll likely be ok as
she's not over threshold. I think we'll just keep it at this
level and do little 5 minute guitar sessions here and there. I
can play the guitar quieter than the piano (particularly a nylon
stringed one) so that's a good level to work on.
Wed Sep 3
Dog walks.
Trek saw two kids. Yoshi saw several dogs with mixed
results. We had deliberately walked over to the school where a
lot of people walk their dogs. Dogs walking away, dogs 1/2 a
block away are ok. I pushed it a bit by having him watch a large
black lab approach and we had a major power struggle there. He
did finally chill out when it was clear that the lab was very much
under control, but he was plainly not happy and reactive to a dog he's
seen before and tolerated before. Annoyed at him, I had him walk
parallel to the dog for a while and he was ok with that.
Go to crate work when door knocks. With Tues experience of him
being so weird about visitors, I've changed my mind on the using mats
instead of crates. I worked each dog separately. With Yoshi
I could knock on something close to the crate and get him to go in the
crate. Further away, he would want to run to the door but would
reorient to me when I said his name and then I could get him to go in
his crate. The doorbell was more intense but I could still get
his attention. I think he's wise to the fact that no one is at
the door.
Trek was similar but would even stay in her crate (she volunteered
this) when I knocked on something, though the doorbell was too much and
she came bursting out but could be redirected back in. Then we
started to work on musical instruments again.
Post to CU_Dogs_SF on vibration sensitivity:
Fortunately since Trek is not a CU dog (though, like most dogs,
benefits from the techniques of breaking challenges down into very
small steps) her fears are not so entrenched and after an usually short
period of time she decides the rewards offered are worth facing her
fears. She goes through the whole process of having something be scary
and then start to reconsider her options once she realizes that treats
are in the offing very quickly. I've seen her go from finding
something so scary she doesn't want to be anywhere near it, to the very
next day being relatively fine with it.
Yesterday I couldn't touch the uke, in fact she looked nearly betrayed
that I could make buzzing sounds with my mouth (a la "How could
you?!") Today I could make all the buzzing sounds I wanted as long as
I rewarded her. Then I got the uke again. She was again leery so I
left in on the sofa and when she would come look at it she got a
treat. I could even play a note or two on it if it was on the sofa,
but on the floor was too much. So I went and got a violin that has no
strings (thus can't make any accidental noise) and set that down on the
floor she was able to do nose touches with that. With a CU dog I would
stop there, but I knew she is very resilient and every time I told her
to Take A Break she wouldn't (which is a great way to gage how a
session is going).
So I got the uke back out and put it on the floor. She cautiously
approached and you could see her grappling with her fear. I didn't
tell her to do anything. She touched it. Yes/treat. She started
bugging me for food so I told her to "touch" it and she did. We did
that a few more times, and I told her to Take A Break. She laid down
beside it and woofed at me wanting to start again. I had her do a
couple more touches. Then I let her eat while I put a hand on the
uke. She stiffened, but card carrying Corgi she is, she stayed with
the food. I played a note on the uke and she kept eating. Then we
went to note/yes/eat, note/yes/eat, note/yes/eat, 2 notes/yes/jackpot
and quit.
She's not completely over it, but likely will be able to work through it.
What's funny is how she doesn't really generalize. I will probably
have to do this with every stringed instrument in the house (no harp
fortunately, but a guitar, mandolin, uke, brac, and, what started this,
piano - I don't play all those but it really doesn't matter as all you
need to do is play notes on them for training purposes).
I stopped playing guitar due to an old hand injury that has since healed. I should consider going back to it a little.
Tue Sep 2
Someone, who Yoshi has seen before, came by to see Terri and Yoshi was
being a complete barky/growly twit. Fortunately I had him on the
sofa so I just held onto him and then covered him eyes. He
groused about that but settled down reluctantly. Then he could
look at the visitor and be relatively ok.
Mon Sep 1
I actually had to work today so today was just another workday, but we got some training in.
Walked both dogs. By the way each dog gets walked a brisk mile
separately (a good Corgi distance - they can go much further but this
is what's manageable for me and still keeps them in shape) - I checked
it with my GPS which I often use as an overpriced odometer (fear not,
it was used as a real GPS yesterday when I was hiking out near Tahoe.)
Trek's walk was uneventful, Yoshi saw two teeny dogs while we were
crossing a street and wanted to do the usual bark/lunge/flail like a
caught fish on the end of the Gentle Leader routine. I got him
across the street and we played a litle LATADFO (Look At That And Don't
Freak Out) but it was brief.
[later] Did crate and mat work with both dogs in the Living Room.
I may be having more success with the mats now so I started having them
on the mats and knocking on something wooden. They both did well
not reacting. Then I did what I've been trying to teach all this
time with the crate. Knock on something and say "mat" and they go
to their mats. Each dog did very well at this, so I just left the
mats down instead of taking them up.
Trek noise sensitivity. I should have seen this coming, but I
play recorded music all the time so I didn't realize that she has a
lesser case of fear of stringed musical instruments that the Beardie
who was at one of the CU Workshops has. We were just finishing up
mat work and I played the piano like I did on Yoshi's You Tube
video. She got off the mat looking stressed and tried to leave
the room. Surprised, I started treating her for just being around
the piano, and then hitting a few notes. Even that was too
much. So it became one note/one treat and even then she didn't
want to come over and it got worse and worse.
Call me slow, but the minute I stopped and walked away from the piano
she went over there to clean the crumbs off the floor. You might
think that she knew it was safe since I wasn't at the piano, and that
was certainly part of it, but what she was telling me was that she
needed a break. I sat back down and told her to Take a
Break. She sniffed around further away and then came back to
me. I played one note and gave her a treat. She wanted to
leave, so I told her again to TAB. Same routine. Another
round of that and she stopped leaving. I was just about done
anyway so we did 3 more note/treats and ended it there.
I've known about her noise sensitivity for a while, but while she
struggles with it initially she usually works through it so I've been a
bit lazy about it. I guess I need to play the piano more.
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