Finding current research on dog pack order is just hell because there's
so much crud vaguely based on older research.
The wolf pack structure was researched in the 60s and 70s and led to the
80s, 90s dominance theories for dogs.
More current research has noticed that (a) wolves don't live nearly so
peacefully at all and (b) feral dogs are nearly anarchists in comparison
to wolves.
This article (that also appeared in ADPT's publication) notes that who's
in charge of a certain resource in a domestic dog pack is very fluid and
depends on how much dog A wants something.
http://www.psyeta.org/jaaws/full_articles/7.4/verkerkhove.pdf
I'd love to see any research that shows if dogs even know what the back
and the front of the pack is and if it has any significance.
It might be more that both dogs know the harzards of
*running* past herding dogs. :)
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who showed up for the Alameda CU
Streetwalking session.
Even though it was weirdly hot for Alameda, the breeze mercifully picked
up and saved us all from cooking.
We learned some surprising things about our dogs and I'll give those
involved some time to post about their own dogs.
My dog was of course 1st in the Be a Jerk class, but even his outbursts
were generally brief.
Jack the stuffed JRT made his debut.
We put a leash on Jack sent he and a "handler" (me or Terri) across the
street and stood there tugging slightly on the leash to make him move
slightly.
The handler would also move Jack around to various places when the CU
dog wasn't looking. We'd also spend time petting Jack or talking to
him. I couldn't resist working on his great Stay. Sit and Come still
need work.
Except for Yoshi, none of the dogs paid him any attention. As you might
guess, my neighbors are amused.
The JRT stuffed dog was bought to help Yoshi who has some sort of
persecution complex about small whitish dogs (among others), so it's no
surprise that he stared very hard at it, and it's nice to know that
we'll be able to do more work using Jack in that regard - We carefully
made sure Yoshi never got very close to Jack, but given that he treated
Trish King's stuffed Dobe like it was a real dog, it probably doesn't
matter.
I now know that Yoshi's threshold distance increases when the dog across
the street is excited and bouncing as opposed to just walking normally.
With a normally walking dog his distance is one residential street width
and one Alameda house width. Bouncing dogs increase the distance by
another house width.
If you're thinking of having your own street walking gathering, here's a
few things we noticed.
- Consider having the gatherings at several different locations. Expect
the host dog to be among the worst behaved since you're on their turf.
For some of the dogs simply being in a new place with new smells filled
up the brain cells quite nicely and seemed to have a calming effect (too
bad that doesn't work with my hypervigilant dog).
- Make note of any of the surrounding conditions. Things that made our
session unique were that it was (a) on a relatively quiet residential
street (b) kids and the occasional bike or scooter would pass by (c)
cars were moving only about 30 mph or less (d) we do have some barking
neighborhood dogs and (e) it was hot.
- Have more than one non-CU dog of differing sizes. If they can do a
stressor on command that helps. In our case, Trek can bark on command,
and we also had a bouncing adolescent (which she comes by naturally).
- Have different possible routes back to the start point
- Have a way that CU dog can retreat if necessary
- Do one dog at a time
- Have fun, make it a low key party.
General approach that I used was:
- send the non-CU dog and handler across the street and have them just
stand or sit there in plain view about a house width down.
- bring out CU dog, and let him/her notice the dog - if they choose not
to that's ok too, but generally they'll be playing LAT.
- then depending on the CU dog, have the non-CU dog move around - walk
up the street a few houses then turn around and do the same thing
- at this point you can do whatever you like. non-cu dog could run, or
do tricks, parallel walk, optionally come to the same side of the street
and have then stand closer.
- we didn't have the dog's meet, you can choose to, but dog greetings
usually need more lateral space than a sidewalk as arcing non-direct
approaches work best, so it's a lot harder to orchestrate and you really
don't need to do it.
- then put the CU dog away and bring out another CU dog or let the
non-CU dog take a break.
Looking forward to hearing from others.
Ellen and CU Yoshi (aka Bolt)
and CU training assistant Trek
I decided after letting Yoshi crash a sheep into the fence (the sheep
is fine - I was shook), that he was just too much dog for me in the
herding arena and that I should have our instructor handle him. I wish
I had made that decision a couple of months back, but I guess I needed
to find out for myself. They had their first session together last
Saturday and he did fantastic. I did have to go into the arena as he
wanted me there, but was fine (mostly - he would stress from time to
time, but then recover) with HTrainer3 working him. Same stupid sheep
crashed the fence again, but at least it's not me doing it. :)
I've never seen him so happy, I'm excited for his herding future. I'm
having her train for the trial level and will skip the PT level in case
I ever want to do it with him in the future.
The funny thing is that if I'm in the arena, he'll still bring me
sheep. I'll be filming and notice that the sheep are getting bigger
and bigger in the viewfinder - eek. Gee thanks Yoshi - how thoughtful
of you.
Ellen
and Yoshi (Look what I brought you!)
and Trek (Herding? Make him do it.)