Yoshi and Trek Training Diary

By Ellen Clary
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Fri Sep 3
I'm starting to collect some of the wonderful comments people have said about Yoshi when he got his PT.



I'm a little late with my congratulations, but they're no less heartfelt.  I watched your video over the weekend and was tremendously impressed with you and Yoshi.  ESPECIALLY that sit....and your (apparent) utter confidence in Yoshi as you turned your back on him and walked toward the sheep.
I know how far you two have travelled.  I first saw you and Yoshi work at the 2006 Nationals in Vacaville.  At that time, Yoshi was horribly reactive and  stressed by other dogs.  He's changed so much....when you were at the SoCal corgi trial last spring it was like seeing a different dog.
You should be very proud of yourself....and him!

First, to Ellen. You have done a remarkable job with Yoshi. I saw him at the beginning - he and you have come a long way. I wish you the best no matter what you decide to do with him. I think he has taught you so much and maybe that was his mission!

Wanted to tell Ellen C how happy I was for her surviving PT on her own and putting the PT on her own dog.  I knew you could do it, you knew you could do it and I am sure Yoshi is all the happier for it.

Not only proud of him for getting his PT, but also we're proud yourself for working so
hard and sticking by his side. 
Some of our dogs that are the most challenged, the ones that may not go far in the public
ring, are be the ones that teach us the most and make us so much better trainers than an
easy dog that trains in a snap.

Incredible Journey :  Read every word of Yoshi's journey, and have to agree, it's the tough to train that teach us the most. 
Ellen, keep on keeping on with your boy.  I think many of us are just as proud of You as we are Him.  :)

Congratulations, Ellen and Yoshi--our inspirations.
You hung in there and showed us all that there truly is HOPE!
Get those dogs a tiring job!

You have done a fantastic job with both Trek and Yoshi.  I admire you for your patience and your fortitude.  I have learned a lot both about being a better person and being a better handler through watching you

Ellen i'm so glad you got the job done.  I do understand where your coming from.  [My dog] was that way and I had one horrible time with him.  He did also come around at the age of 6 and I did get some titles on him then.  Do we call that lifes experiences or one hell of a ride????

Congratulations, Ellen.  It's quite an accomplishment given all the things you've had to work through.

What a great story! And congratulations big time!

Congratulations Ellen and Yoshi.  All the hard work you have done is paying off. 

Many congratulations to you and Yoshi.  It was, as you say, a long journey from HT to PT, but it was a remarkable one in which you’ve accomplished a great deal with a dog that many would have thrown the towel in on long ago.

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Awesome !!! Yoshi is so  not about to let those sheep get away! Nice calm handling by the way.


Here's the video of the run:




Thu Sep 2

Trek noon walk.  Huge success for Trek.  I took her down by the school and the kids were out playing at recess.  When Trek first came to live with us she could get within a quarter block of the school when the kids were out playing (even if it was just a few).  In the past few months I've been able to walk her down beside the school on the other side of the street.  Today she was able to walk on the same side of the school with kids playing and the metal of the swings clanging.  I am so proud of her.  The breadsticks I brought along probably helped too but if she's really stressed she will eat but will chomp on me.  Today she wasn't chomping.

Yoshi evening walk.  Success for him as well.  2 dog sightings one a Lab and one a Shiba Inu.  In both cases I started feeding him before he saw the dog but I didn't feed him continuously.  I let him look at the dog and he chose to look back at me!  It's like giving him food at first provides the shortcut I need into his brain and it over rides his reaction even when he has the oppertunity however brief to react.  Given that he reliably reacts to Shibas I was more waving the food at him then (instead of the Lab who he's not that reactive to) but I did let him look at the dog.  He thought about reacting but then a treat would whiz by and he refocused on me.

Wed Sep 1
Dog walks fine
Trek Ob class.  She now rocks the dumbell - hooray!  She gets to go on the side of the class who knows the retrieve now.  I showed another Corgi owner about the tennis ball dumbell and that dog who up until now had been really careful suddenly lit up with so much excitement that I insisted they keep it (since I have so many of them.)

The noise in the building does bother her.  A dog tripped over a jump and the thudding sound startled her.

Her recall looked great.  No standing in front of my hands.  I did speak to her as she was approaching to get her the idea to look at my face.

She still thinks figure 8s with dogs are weird.  Especially because she got a St. Bernard tail in the face.  I told her that she didn't have to do that in the trial class.
I'll have to go to the park or the school and practice figure 8's more.

Tue Aug 30
Trek agility class
She did well on the jumpers portion though did blow out of the poles once when I wasn't paying proper attention.  The lateral leadouts do confuse her but if I make it easier by being less lateral, she gets it.

This time I put her soft crate by the car for the contacts part of the class.  This way I don't have to try to bribe her back out of the car crate.  The crate had the car inbetween it and the class so the noise was reduced.  I got her out and wandered around a little and she did ok for a little while.  I think next time I'll park a little closer perhaps behind the shed.  She still started stressing big time and we had to retreat.  After class I took him out to talk to 3 class mates who had stuck around to chat.  They were still on the field so I sat and massaged her and rubbed her belly and she relaxed (no teeter noises then).

Mon Aug 30
People are saying the nicest things about how different Yoshi seems since 2006.

Trek walk - fine.
Yoshi walk
Figured out a routine when a LWFD appears that he wants to react to.  Kneel down.  Hold his scruff.  That usually short cuts into his brain and he starts asking for treats.  Feed him a little, then stand up and see if he'll play LAT or something similar.  Felt like a miracle today.  The LWFDs' owner what interested and just held her dogs still and watched.

Cathy was over tonight and Yoshi would go into these barking phases but for the most part he was really mellow tonight.  Save Trek would start him up some.

so I'm trying to think about how much he'd enjoy training for the Started level.  Originally in January it was my intention to skip PT.  Ha ha ha.  Seeing the complexities of running an AKC herding trial course A make it clear that it's not easy.

Two important skills are the "outrun" where the dog doesn't run directly at the sheep, but in an arc and where the dog comes up behind the sheep and starts to bring them as a group to the handler (a "lift" and then a "fetch"), so the dog has to unlearn wanting to charge straight at the sheep.

But once the sheep are on their way to the handler it's very, very easy for the dog to put too much pressure on the sheep and they run past the handler.  The way to fix this is to stop the dog a ways back to release the pressure on the sheep and they naturally stop.  Stopping while a sheep is running away from them is very difficult for a dog like Yoshi.  But!  If he figures out it's ok for the sheep to run ahead of him then it's that much less pressure on him to control them.

The rest is the directionals go bye and away to me (or whatever you want to call them), but that's almost icing on the cake compared to the other skills.

We've been trying to teach Yoshi that it's ok to relax around the sheep and it make take more stall sessions for that to have an effect, but even if we can get him to relax around sheep in a pen it's entirely different when we're all in motion so I'm wondering if it's better to work on getting the sheep to move and either downing him or calling him off and show him that it's ok to let them go sometimes.  This may drive him freakin' nuts.  Going to be a lot of long line work it appears.  I'll have to talk to Linda about possible approaches.

Sun Aug 29
And today we picked up an extra PT leg.  Less smooth, but we got through the course though he wasn't listening as well.  Perhaps I didn't exercise him enough.

I swore I wasn't going back to Vacaville until we were really good at herding and while we're no pros we are light years better than 2006.  We did it!  I've been stressing about going back there all this time and it worked!  It hasn't sunk in yet that we did it.

On reflection on the way home I thought of this:


So today we added an insurance PT leg.

Getting Yoshi his PT has been a 4 year adventure - I am so proud of him.

Normally in AKC herding a dog will get their Herding Tested title (HT - the first level title) and then train some additional stay and penning skills for a few weeks or months and can then move on to the AKC Pre-Trial level which is the higher of the two "Test" levels.  Getting the PT is usually not the big deal that it was for us.   But we had some side trips.

The biggest one is that he has some huge behavioral issues having to do with other dogs in the vicinity.  So the most major side trip was not really a side trip at all.  We learned a ton about Control Unleashed exercises (Leslie McDevitt is a training genius, so is Kienan Brown) and just about every useful behavioral theory we could decipher, and I have made him rather [in]famous with his training videos.  Ironically the most popular video is the "before" Control Unleashed though the "after" one does well also.

Just to get him to the point where he could be in a trial or training environment without having a meltdown has been a years long process.  His activities are still limited to where he's either on leash or in a fence, but I haven't given up on that though I won't try it unless I know he'll be ok.

We have had a ton of obedience and rally training also he's a regular at a higher end obedience training class even though he may never get into the ob. ring (he might do Rally Novice).  He is a clicker fiend.  I consulted with a hit parade of training professionals in various states and at various conventions and seminars.  He has inspired me to learn a huge amount about observing and understanding dog behavior and language which will serve me for the rest of my life.  (If you have a dog who is unsure around people and you see me and I'm not racing off somewhere just ask me to spend some time with your dog - I love doing it and people tell me they love watching their dog be ok around a person.)

I also had to learn how to be a herding handler (I used a handler for his HT, but he has made it clear that I have to be the handler now).  Herding handling is something that I'm still learning and it's probably one of those things you never master.  And similar to: it's easier to learn to ride a horse if you start with a mellow, mature, solid, trail horse, than if you start with a young, high strung, Thoroughbred, learning herding with a highly driven, speed demon who is fearful, really is starting in over your head.  Herding is by far the hardest dog sport I've ever done and I've competed at the National level in dog agility.  You find that it's really nice that the agility obstacles don't usually move on their own.

Because I was learning, we also worked at the AHBA JHD level and earned that title as well.  (If you've never competed in AHBA, try it - it's loads of fun.)

Somewhere in there was a weeks long process of getting him to STOP!!! and STAY.  That stay in the video where I walk out of the frame and he's sitting there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Rcqww1qoI) makes me cry.

So now what?  Well the natural would be to start training him for the Herding Started trial level (and the equivalent level in AHBA,) but it's a huge leap up to the trial level rather than the test level.  "Test" sheep are hand picked to be less flighty.  These are professional sheep with hard jobs of teaching dogs herding.  They have to be tolerant of barky, excited newbie dog who might bite them (despite efforts to keep this from happening).  They are usually smarter as they have to know not to crash into a fence when a dog is chasing after them.  Trial sheep are a whole 'nuther flock of sheep entirely.  Your average sheep is nervous and worries about not being in a large flock (instead of a small group of 3-5), and how "light" or "heavy" the sheep are is the subject of tons and tons of herding conversations, and Yoshi however talented he is is nervous around sheep and the more nervous the sheep are the worse he is.  so the answer to that question is I don't know yet, though we will be trying to make spending time around sheep no big deal.

I'm writing this as I want to thank all of you for the wonderful amount of support that you've given me over this period of time.

Ellen Clary
and Yoshi PT JHD
and Trek HCT (and a bunch of agility titles.)
The Yoshi Training Diary: http://frap.org/Yoshi/yoshi_training_diary.html
Our You Tube site (most of the herding videos are unlisted, but the training ones are visible)
http://youtube.com/ellenclary#g/u


[later]
Reviewing the video again I notice that "steady" actually works for a few seconds.  Bet I can build on that.
I need to find out for sure how long I can keep entering PT.  I thought t was 60 days, but I've also hear that you can stay in it till you get a started Q.

Oh dear I see that we had the same sheep as Breezy.  It's certainly possible that Yoshi put the sheep in a really bad mood and they then took advantage of Breezy leaving holes.  This is where Yoshi's made circling came in handy.  That same sheep would think about trying to run and there would suddenly be this mad Corgi in his/her face.  I think this is something of what they mean by "Yoshi covers his sheep well."

I'm pretty sure the judge was able to hear me tell Yoshi "I kEll you now."  Hope it provided some amusement.

Sat Aug 28
OMG we did it!  Yoshi got his PT


Mr. "man, look at those legs go" Yoshi finished his PT today.

I think that's the scribe you can here say that on the video which you
can find here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Rcqww1qoI

He would like to thank his trainers and all the people who've given him
attention, skritches, and of course treats.
I would like to thank all the kind ears I've bent and shoulders I've
cried on.

Ellen Clary
and Yoshi PT JHD
and Trek HCT



Fri Aug 27
While i was gone Terri noticed that Yoshi had soft stool and some blood.  Fecal was negative for parasites and giardia.  His unrelated heartworm test was negative.
I took him for a walk at noon and he still has some blood in his stool.  We took it into PCAH and the vet added another medicine to go with his Peptid AC.  Both are supposed to line his gut to help with any mild internal bleeding.

I checked his gums (first thing to check) and they are pink and fine.  If a dog's gums are grey or white it is a medical emergency.  (I ran into this with Cali.)

Did his nails.  I hope he'll be feeling well enough to herd this weekend at the trial.

His herding trial is this weekend.  I'm trying not to be nervous but I have to keep telling myself that he's more than ready and we really can do this.

[In Houston this week for work - Got to do a little training with a friend's Cardi which was much fun - I usually just work when I'm in Houston so it was a nice break.]

Sun Aug 22
Yoshi Herding
This time I didn't take him off the line at all.  But having the line made a difference.  With the lighter sheep he was always wanting to charge them but there were some mellower sheep in the round pen and we had a really nice session with then and he only lost his head a few times (still on the line.)

Fri Aug 20
My dog day got absurd today - did it just to see if it would work
Obedience in Oakland (Lori's class - Trek went)
Sheep in Woodside (Yoshi)
Agility (Rachelle's class) in Martinez at Sharon's.
I am tired.  It was a little much.  I think in the future we'll keep it to two dog activities.

Trek Novice Ob class.
Well I thought she was ready and she mostly is but her figure 8's are wonky and Mozart's mom put a crate with a toy right behind where I was standing for a recall and when I called Trek she ran right  past me into the crate.  She was very proud of her self.  One issue is that she targets my hands and I had my hands by my sides.  I'm going to have to work on some recalls with me on my knees.  Lori thinks I should spit food to help her target my face but Trek is something of a skull crasher so I worry about that and I don't like food spiting anyway.  I'm wondering if I can do it with a clicker.

Her figure 8's aren't good either because we don't get a chance to practice them.  I suppose we could do it around trees and basketball poles but she's afraid of the metal clanging inherit in a playground so I'm thinking I should abandon the idea of competing under Hazel and instead taking her to Hazel's class at ODTC and training under her precludes us from competing under her.  It's a catch 22.  The only way to get all of Trek's raw talent ready for the ring is to have her in a class situation.  Training her myself can only get her so far, since I mostly do our training when out on walks.

Just send this email to the relevant folks:

Greetings,

So I've concluded that the only way to really prepare for competing under Hazel is to train under Hazel which precludes competing under Hazel.

After Lori's class today I realize that if I were to put Trek into Novice with only training from me and the few of Lori's classes that she's been to that what I would end up with is very likely a very clever and novel NQ.  She's very bright and talented, but doesn't have enough mileage to know that however  creative and tempting it might seem, doing a recall into Mozart's empty crate is not considered part of the plan - even if it has a cool toy in it :)

So expect to start seeing Trek in Wed Drop in from time to time.

Ellen and Trek (But it was just sitting there!)


Yoshi Sheep Communing - the grand experiment
So this is a version of bring you, your dog on leash and a chair and a book into the sheep pen as a way of letting Fido spend time around sheep without working them.  The idea is to add mileage for those dogs who get revved around sheep and run amuck. (Yoshi says "Who me?")

So Linda had Yoshi and I go into a small urine soaked stall (good thing I am a horse person and have some familiariy with such things) with 8 then 6 sheep (we kicked two stress cases out).  I sat in a chair (though was too interested in what was happening to need a book).  I though his eyes were going to pop out.  There were 8 rather uneasy pairs of eye staring at him (and feet stamping), and he is doing his level best to ignore them by starting out the front which is a wire fence.  I let him up in my lap and he's totally stress panting but he relaxes some in my lap.  The once in a while we got up and moved the sheep to the other side.  Yoshi was very much "Oh you go right ahead." but I was able to use treats to get him to walk up in a flanking position.  Linda also showed me how to shoo the sheep away if they were crowding him (basically just by waving your hands at them in the universal "shoo" gesture.)  Then we went back to the chair and we both sat.  Eventually he would even lay down (while still looking outside). 

After about 20 minutes of them I brought him out, and Linda and I chatted about it.  She was saying that you can working it into controlled on-leash flanking commands.  So I brought him back in.  As soon as I started to say things like out, flank and away he totally changed.  He suddenly went into herding charge mode, and I'm there trying to explain that he's in a 12x12 box and no one is going anywhere and that it's poor form to let the sheep climb the walls.  Then he starts barking and barking and we finally get him to quiet down.  We moved the sheep around the stall some more and then i decided to end it for the session.

What's fascinating is that I got to see a compressed version of every way I've seen him around stock.  The Quaking Flower and the Possessed Sheep Maniac and they both originate from the same emotion.  Fear.  He is afraid of the sheep and this really handicaps him.  However since he very much has the desire it is well worth trying to help him work through it.

He is going to to Santa Rosa to practice on Sunday and I hope I don't undo this progress.  It's tricky because he's in a trial the next weekend, but I'm sure we can get through it.  Albeit not that calmly I'm sure.

Trek Agility Class at Freilance
While we didn't do a lot of contacts she is quite willing to do them which is always nice to see.  2 teeters, 2 A-Frames, 2 dogwalks.

Thu Aug 19
Trek walk - fine.  1 dog no issue and this dog has reacted to Yoshi.  The owner who I don't know was doing a perfect tight tense leash - oops.

Yoshi walk.
2 dogs one twice.  I just fed him when the appeared and it went great.  It's remarkably effective.

I put Jack the stuffed JRT in the yard and then let the dogs out.  They went racing right up to him (not barking) and knocked him over but were very much interested in him as a dog. A very non-reactive one but still a dog, not prey, not a toy.  Though Trek did start to chew on his ears, but she does that to Yoshi, so it's not clear what she thinks.  If you present Jack to Yoshi he always reacts to him as a boring dog.  I did video tape it some and will have to review it.

I need to find a LWFD toy to see if there's a prey reaction.

Sun Aug 15
Yoshi sheep herding.

Still too enthusiastic with the sheep but I was able to manage it pretty well with a long line.

He was losing his mind barking at the sheep so we did the CU thing and increased the distance.  After three times and most of the way across the arena he settled down and we were able to then gradually decrease the distance, and then do some work.

His away outruns are nice if I'm with the sheep though he does like to go all the way around and I'm not going to fight him on that for now. for started he will have to do an outrun and then start fetching them to the cone.

Herding along the fence is still awkward at best, but we'll get through the PT.
My experiment in walking in front of the sheep along the fence really doesn't work unfortunately as I get run over.

Walking more to the rear of the sheep sort of worked as I could keep him from getting in between the sheep and the fence (with me holding a flag.)  But me hanging out in the back does make the sheep stop and wonder what was happening though it sort of worked.  They really want a leader.

An older female dog tried to tell he him off and he snarked right back but we ended it immediately.
He did rip a pad so I'm leery of practicing again next Sunday.  Though we can vet wrap it.

The instructor says he's a great worker but needs to work every day and needs his own sheep ranch. Oh great.

post to corgi herders

Difference between PT and Started

Others can answer this far better, but there is a world of difference 
between PT and Started.

I almost wish there was a "Graduate" level of PT.


Pre Trial
scoring is pass/fail
the judge is allowed to help you and offer advice
the sheep are carefully screened to be the kind that stay with the
handler ("test sheep")
you can walk in on leash
Once you release your dog for the outrun and have gathered the sheep
the herding is all along the fence (usually easier - it's just hell for
us, but that's just us)
the stock has to go in between a panel and the fence in both far corners.


Started
scoring is point based
the judge does not help you
the stock can be much more flighty and may run away if the dog isn't
holding them to the handler ("trial sheep")
you walk in with the dog off leash
once you release your dog for the outrun and have gathered the sheep
(much more difficult with light sheep)
the stock has to go up the center of the arena to a cone
then they go towards the fence and go through 3 obstacles
- a Y chute
- a Z chute
- an set of panels (the turns into a pen at the higher levels)
Then (you're not done yet) they turn and go through two other panels
(similar to AHBA JHD course), then continue on to a marked place on the
fence and then turn for the pen.

Trek walk.  Walked by some hammering which made her worried but she liked the treats so she coped.

Though later on I offered to let her lick the treats out of a small metal container.  That was ok for a short while but her tag kept hitting it so she stopped eating (yes, a corgi).  This is after feeding her from a metal bowl for two years.

Sat Aug 14
Trek got to work with me in helping my niece Katie train her dog Denali.  Trek is a pro at being a non reactive dog and puttlng less comfortable dogs at ease.  Denali is uneasy around other dogs and can be really reactive but fundamentally she's a really nice dog.  So we worked on adding structure to dog greetings.  Trek and i were across the street when Denali was brought out.  Fortunately there is a perfectly sized smalling parking lot and I had Katie take Denali to the other end and Trek and i were at the opposite end.  I had given them some really yummy treats and I had her feed Denali while we approached indirectly.  We would walk at an angle to them and stop and check in.  If Denali seemed ok then we would approach again at an angle going the other direction.  While Denali would whine with anticipation she never reacted, and in the process i explained LAT though Denali was offering it anyway.  If Denali started to tense up we retreated some.  Then when she relaxed we would get a little closer.  All the while getting more treats.

Eventually we were with in ten feet and we decided to walk over together to a small park.  I let Trek off leash and after it appeared to be ok Denali was also let off.  There was one 3 second interval were Denali snorted and her hackles went up, but Trek gave the perfect disengaging calming signal (turned away and sniffed the ground) and Denali calmed down.  Thank you Trek.

:We then walked back to the house and I crated my dogs away from Denali while we went to lunch.  Later on we let Trek and Denali spend time in the back area once it looked like that was going to be ok.  (We started out on leash again at a distance and worked upt to them both being off leash.)  Things went so well we didn't try in the house and just left it on a good note.  I gave Katie a copy of Control Unleashed and I hope it helps.  Denali is a good dog, just uncomfortable at times.

Fri Aug 13
Tonight is the second CU DVD Viewing party.  Should be fun.

Just pondering more:

I really want to help Yoshi be more at ease in the world.
He's better than he was, but he's always scanning and stressed by other dogs.
I want him to learn that other dogs are not a concern.
If he was a rescue we'd assume that he was attacked by a dog but he wasn't.
And in his puppy innocence he wasn't reactive.  More when he hit 6 months and started lunging and barking at dogs.

His breeder fixed it by using well timed corrections (clicker training wasn't working), and he became manageable.  When I got him at 8 months he was fine for a while and then really started getting serious about being dog reactive (those teenage "years").  After a lot of struggle we then heard about CU and started herding training quit agility and his life gradually changed.

But he's still hyper-aware of his surroundings.  Part of that is just him but I really want to change his initial response when he seems a dog that makes him uncomfortable.  I want him to come to me, not charge the dog.

I find it really interesting how he's more at ease when attached to me or touching me.  That's when I figured out you can send calming signals back down the leash so tension on the leash isn't a bad thing if it's a good link.

i might talk to Denise about this as she has more experience than I do in dealing with this.  (I'd also like her thoughts about Trek's noise issues.)


Yoshi dog park and walk
I had a few hours before the CU gathering, so I decided to take Yoshi back to the dog park.  This time we did the walk first though stopped briefly to watch the little dogs and headed out alongside the park before going out and doing a loop around part of the park where we politely shooed some geese out of the way.  Getting back to the park we sat outside and ate treats and watched the dogs, then we worked our way closer to the entrance.  When things looked like the were going ok we stepped inside the first of the double gates but then a LWFD (little white fluffy dog) left through a different nearby gate and he lost if so I carried him out.  We then sat outside and ate treats and then did another loop around the outside of the park.  Then we got back and sat and ate more treats and this time I did bring him in (carrying him), because I had been carrying him some while we were outside and he felt ok as I held him.  He was pretty dazed at all the dogs but did ok since he was above them.  We went down to the nearly vacant end and I put him down and the other two dogs down there approached slowly and he did ok.  If another dog came up I covered his eyes and he didn't react, though there were no LWFDs around either.  He ate so much he didn't get much of any dinner.

The CU DVD gathering went well and people saw various things that I missed so I was so happy they were there.

Now we have to figure out what our next step is.  It's appearing that parallel games is an important one and Kitty and Ann are suggesting this nice not crowded park that's located in between us called Jose Higuera Adobe in Milpitas, off 680.

Here's a picture of it.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.458475,-121.896553&spn=0.001101,0.001169&t=h&z=20

Participants would be require to have completed CU Continued, but those interested but haven't could do something less demanding.
We would do Parallel Games (mostly), with Car Crash and Out n Mats and variations on There's a Dog in Your Face.
We'll have to see how much training stuff (baby gates, xpens, temp fencing) we can come up with plus some agility equipment.

Thu Aug 12
Trek walk.  Clicking and treating her appears to work great.  I was able to click and treat her near a noisy chipper.

Yoshi training.
Today I made good on a promise to take him back to Washington Park and the dog park.
When we got there we sat outside the small dog park and he ate the majority of the treats that I had brought in the first 5 minutes.  There was what looked like a BC puppy and another largish small dog running and playing near the fence which was excellent.  Then we went on a long walk out to the Ballena Bay jetty and looked at two small dogs from a distance and then we walked past a tied up GSD who was barking at us some and Yoshi was a pro and just looked at me the whole time.  We also watched a RottieX jumping into the water after a stick.  The dog looked like he wanted to come say hi and the owner called his dog back.  He had said he was friendly even when I wasn't even looking at him, but I said that my dog was iffy.  We then said our good byes and moved on (it went fine). 

Then we crossed back through the park (it's huge and a great walk - though he was dragging me some which was annoying but I was very low on treats and didn't argue about it too much as he's been doing so well) and then went and stood by the small dog park.  I actually wound up picking him up and he seemed more relaxed that way.  I find this really interesting as i've noticed it multiple times.  If he's stressed or scared he wants to be picked up like a wee dog does.  If something really bothers him he will struggle to be put down again (I usually hang on then), but he's often much more confident.  As a default behavior that would be just fine (well maybe not in herding).  If I could get him to charge to me instead of at a dog that would be heaven.

I can also say "Have a goodie/cookie" and he'll look at me in anticipation.  Which is another awesome default behavior.  Must bring more treats on these adventures and I really need to do this on a regular basis.

i'm just so thrilled that i can comfortably walk him in the park.  Compared to walking on the streets the park is really easy.  Lots of lateral space.

Wed Aug 11
Dog walks.  Yoshi.  He looks at me ever time a dog barks at him and he has this amazing knowledge of when a dog is behind a fence or window and can't get to him and he pretty much no longer reacts, but looks to me for a treat.  Loose dogs are an entirely different matter.  If I can get him to leave sheep when I ask him to them that might make a difference.  Saw a small dog and just fed him while it walked by across the street.  This really does work the best for now.

I'm wondering if continuous feeding would help him watch dogs calmly when he's looking through the living room window.  Really easy thing to try  I know clicking and treating works mostly there.

Trek walk.  Went down 3 blocks of High St and did well.  Got to demo her utility skills to some folks across the street's kid - that was fun.
I may have come up with a real solution to her pulling.  I think it's a better way to teach Loose Lead Walking.  Usually when a dog pulls you go backwards some.  I think stopping and doing nothing works better.  When Trek turns around I say yes and give her a treat.  Over the space of one walk I not only have LLW but her hitting the end of the leash became a cue to look back at me - how cool is that?

Yoshi some fetch with a rabbit fur toy and mat work outside with a towel on the dirt.  We basically started Karen Overall's Relaxation Protocol over again.  I would first throw treats on the mat and he immediately laid down on it, but popped up instantly.  I worked it up to where I could take one step to each side (this is funny because he does have a good down stay).  Then a dog next door barked.  He took off to bark and I stayed there by the mat and waited.  After some seconds he came back on his own and stood on the mat sniffing the air.  Then he was looking at me expectantly for a while (I didn't move but just looked neutrally back).  Then he laid down!  Jackpot! and we quit.  I need to figure out a mat that goes anywhere - I've asked the CU list about it.

Moments after I ask the CU list for mat ideas I walk into the living room and see the original teeny tiny Thermarest that I evicted from the attic and have been wondering what to do with.  It's a bit long for a Corgi (about 4' long), but it's perfect for being outside and I can just put a towel over it.  Since the dogs are light weight it actually works slightly better with the air valve open (or I could leave it slightly deflated.)  I intro'd it to them in the living room, and tonight I took it out and put a towel on it.  Yoshi thought it was a little odd in the living room but outside with the same towel we werejust working with he plopped right down on it.  This is perfect.

I think it really is back to basics with Yoshi
 - feeding continuously around trigger dogs
 - more click to calm
 - more mat work esp outside

Trek will play tug when she's trying to get a toy into her crate and I have a hold of it.  Now that's an odd crate game

Tue Aug 10
Big dog day.
[noon] worked with Yoshi at the local Lincoln Park on a long line.
We worked on moving stop, walk and down a bunch.
Had one pair of dogs go by that I fed him through
There was a group of people over on the next lawn a ways over.  What I hadn't realized was that they had a dog the size of a Yorkie who had wandered over coming right at us but beyond the long line.  One of the people was coming to get the dog.  Yoshi charged and I yelled stop but it was a bit pointless.  He hit the end of the line (attached to both collars for redundancy in case something like this happened and went flying.  I rather redundantly said "He's not friendly" and the woman said "Sorry" and collected the dog.

i really do want this to change.  I want him not to charge other dogs period.  Especially little ones.  He likely would have grabbed that dog and hung on till I got there.  Because it's tramatic for me I haven't taught him a release like they do for the Schutzhund dogs.  I just want him to not do it period.  It really screws everything up and puts a damper on what was a great training session.  When he sees a small dog he needs to come to me for a treat exactly like he does when there's a dog barking at him from behind a fence.  I taught him this - he can learn.  I need to give up on requiring a behavior.  Small dog = open bar.

Trek Power Paws class (both dogs went)
the jumpers portion.

Trek did a course where I was standing laterally.  More than I thought she could do (Jim made me stand that far laterally).  I was so impressed with her.
Though we can't serpentine jumps that are angled more that 180 degrees.  She runs past the second one.  It's rare to see that though in a sepentine.  What I would do instead is to stop at the second jump and call her over it and then do a front cross.

Again if I anticipate the next obstacle she pops the 10th pole.  I must telegraph it.  If I only focus on the poles and don't thing about the next obstacle she does fine.

When the class moved to the contacts part of the field we stayed on the jumpers part because I wanted to see if there was any difference in her behavior from 3 weeks or so ago.  We played a lot of fetch with her Airdog toy and a couple of jumps (we were sharing with Nancy who was doing a private consult).  The first run where a teeter and A-Frame were used she was ok but the second she was stressed and panting and the third she started to leave and wasn't cominng to Trek come (she had this panicked, whale-eyed "I must get to the car" look).  Something in my brain remembered "Down you dog" from a Patricia McConnel book (someone had told her to do this when her dog was being charged by a guardian dog), and I said/signaled "Trek down" and she downed!  I hear Nancy (who had been watching) quietly say "Good dog" (I had told her that Trek was afraid of teeters and probably wouldn't last long with the teeter in use) and I said it too once I had leashed Trek.  Phew.  Trek then dragged me to the car and i let her.

So it's Yoshi's turn.  We did a lot of LAT and click to calm outside the fence and at the gate.  I had Natural Balance Duck and Beef with me and also Zuke's Jerky Naturals Salmon which I had bought by mistake but what a good mistake.  He didn't seem to notice the wee dogs at all, or any dog except as a way to get a treat.  I think he likes Power Paws too as he's always been better behaved there than at Sharon's.

I asked Jim if it was ok to sprinkle some of Cali's ashes there and he said that that was fine any place I liked.  I'm thinking the field, but Cali would likely prefer the potty area.  Maybe I'll just do both.

Mon Aug 9
Basic walk for one of the dogs at noon (i think Yoshi)
Cathy came by and we made dinner and watched Dr Who and the dogs very nicely kept us company.

Oh I remember.  When he's in the living room window and barking at a dog it appears to make a difference if you keep talking to him and touch him.  He still growls, but he doesn't go over the top.  It's like you're helping him hold it together.  I find this fascinating and want to do more with it but I need a dog who isn't going to go away.

Sun Aug 8
Big day for the doggies.  Some married friends are bringing all three of their children over to visit.

[after]
It went better than I expected.  One of the kids (there were two 8 year olds and a 3 year old) Katie is really good with the dogs and the other two were good also (even the 3 year old).  Trek got most of the attention and Yoshi just kept us safe from squirrels but he got some attention too.

The only annoying thing was that he was doing his barking bit when one of them would walk into a room he was in.  Even after spending hours with them.  It's like when someone leaves the room and reenters they are new again.  Also he would bark at them when they tried to move around.  Except for Katie who he didn't bark at. ;)

Trek and all the humans went over to a playground at Lincoln Park.  Trek coped surprisingly well being around kids playing at a playground.

[evening]
Trek and I went over to Mark and Jan's to watch And Man Created Dog which had Vicki and her Corgi Hella working cows on the 900 acre ranch that Vicki used to own.  It was very impressive.

Sat Aug 7
I want to see how Yoshi is beside a bike.  I think we'll try it briefly on the street and then maybe go over to the bike path on Harbor Bay in the Business section as there is grass beside the path and it's not very busy.

Wow that was cool!
Facebook update:
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Took Yoshi running with me on a bike at Harbor Bay (in Alameda near the airport). (The place is empty on the weekend.) Yoshi has a look of pure joy on his face to be able to run full out on the grass beside the bike path.
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I have several things to work out. 
 - the leash has to attach better to me in case I fall off and drop the leash (a big concern).
   I want the leash attached to me and not the bike as bad things can happen to bikes and I'd rather he not be attached to it.  If I go flying I'd rather he fly with me.
   Maybe a rope or chest harness or other around me and attached to the leash  - it's nice having it in my hand as I can give him more feedback.  Maybe a second attachment from my body to the loop of the leash.
 - the lateral room there is limited so it's hard to move far out of the way.  That said the sightlines are fantastic so you have a long time to go elsewhere.
 - it is a little odd on a bike but I don't think a scooter is better as my goal is to keep up with him and not have him tow me like they do in dog scootering.
 - right now it's attached to his collar but a harness might be better.  Or not, if he lunges I have little control if he's in a harness.

When we got back I put him in the truck and put the bike away.  Then I opened the truck back up and he wanted to do more (now that the bike is in the rack), so we ran a little more he wasn't really up to running full out anyway, but still wanted to walk/trot more.  He's tired now.  Finally.

Fri Aug 6
[noon] Trek walk.  I've been stopping when she pulls on the way home.  She's reluctantly getting it.

[eve] Tonight is the first CU DVD viewing party.  Smaller than I thought (had three no shows) but we all got a lot out of it.  I love having observant dog people to talk it over with.  That many pairs of eyes really helps.

Even though it's scheduled for next week we did see some of the Parallel Games section with Blaze,  Blaze would come out behind barriers then retreat.  The parked cars must be having a similar effect.  May be I can use them more than just watching the dog approach, then hiding behind them and then watching the dog pass by.  Have to think about that.

Thu Aug 5
Trek walk generally fine less pulling and she's really good at the moving stop.
Yoshi walk.  Right out the door there was a lab across the street.  I had my clicker and was immediately clicking him and he did ok.  Then Sky next door appeared (at the end of her walk), but on our side of the street (we're still standing in the driveway near the house).  Yoshi held it together for a little bit, but Sky was tense and staring and Yoshi lost it.  Barking lunging.  I picked him up and he was really struggling.  I should of backed up, but it looked like he was going to be able to cope, but his territory and a tense dog just are not a good combination.

He spent the rest of the walk jacked up.  We nearly walked into a dog at Gibbons and Central but we were able to retreat and hid behind a parked car.

Wed Aug 4
Trek walk - the usual.  Didn't drag me as much.  On each walk I practice the Utility moving Stop (and stay).  We're walking along and I say Stop and she stands there while I walk along and then stop.  Then I signal Down, and then Sit (I say the cues too right now.)  She's great at it and I'm really proud of her.

Yoshi walk.  2 dog sightings.  One two large Samoyeds (I think - larger white dogs).  For them Yoshi had almost no reaction though we did back off 1/2 a house length but only that which is a little remarkable.  The other he was much tenser about.  It was a long haired Daschund and he was very tense and wanted to charge even though we backed off a house width (perhaps too close).  What IS his thing about small dogs?  He's getting pretty good about dogs that are the size of a Border Collie but with many small dogs he's just a rotten dog.  I think it's prey drive.  He needs to spend more leashed time at the small dog park.  His own personal hell.  I do love torturing him with it.  Consider it payback.

We also practice the moving Stop. He's not as good at it but he's getting it.  It's harder as I can't drop the leash like I can with Trek.

Tue Aug 3
PP agility both dogs going.  Yoshi as a tourist.

[later]
Well very interesting.  Trek did better today.  The teeter was quieter today (it was further from the hedge so less echo) so I dragged her out of the car where I had put her after the jumpers section and then got Yoshi out (who did ok, except for one minor outburst).  She then was in the parking area eating treats and then at a brak, I took her in and went to the far end of the field on the jumpers side.  She wasn't happy about it but was able to eat and wasn't even chomping on me.  This is a huge improvement, to the point that I'm not going to pull her out of class after next week and I'll let her go another cycle to see if we can get any further progress on her noise sensitivity.

She did great on the jumpers portion.  She did pop the 10th pole when I was trying to get ahead of her, and I have to remember to work each serpentine obstacle or she'll run past them (because in some way I'm telling her to skip it - this could be very useful for Snooker.)

Mon Aug 2
I have the dogs for nearly two weeks, so it means I get to do all the doggy things instead of our usual tag team doggy car which works so well.  Terri usually does the feeding and the eyedrops and I do the walking, training and classes/lessons.  In my eyes I get the fun stuff and I always invite her along and she'll come once in a while, but I think I have to work on my pitch.  "Do you want to come stand around in a dirt sheep pasture?" just isn't cutting it for some reason.

Dog walks - fine

Sun Aug 1
Yoshi got his nails done this morning.

Yoshi sheep herding.  I took him to a different place that was having some sessions for more beginner dogs.  The trainer there is more a Border Collie person but she was happy to work with him.  She first took him into a small pen to see how he'd be.  What was interesting was that even though these sheep are more light then were not flighty and the pen had 10-12 sheep looking right at him so he was on best behavior.  We had him move the sheep around the pen and with help he did fine.

Then for the next session we put him in a larger pen (too large she said but there wasn't a smaller one) and while he held his stays and he would stop momentarily pretty soon he was running around me to try to control the sheep and I had to run catch him.  Given that we switched him to the pasture on a long line with my holding it and we just drove the sheep around the pasture.  He seemed happy doing this.  Often I'd have to check him from going too fast and the idea is that we're supposed to both be even to really drive properly, but he had a good time and seemed a lot less stressed.

At first I was convinced that he should just practice more this way and that may be true but he really is more than ready for his PT so I have entered him in the Aug 29-20 trial.  It's in the mailbox and will go out Monday to Campbell so it should get there Tues or Wed and then I should find out after that if it's full.

Trek went along as a tourist (she insisted I wasn't going to be taking her) and she actually had a nice time wandering around and having her belly scratched.  Yoshi's behavior to the other dogs was very good.  It helped that he was surrounded by Border Collies and Kelpies including Drover who he's seen before.  We let him politely beat up on Drover and Drover was very nice about it and even when we gave him a break he came right back to Yoshi.  He lives with Terriers so he's probably something of a glutton for punishment.

So since Yoshi apparently has the Aug 28-29 weekend (unless it's full) then I need to find an agility trial for Trek.  I suppose I could put her in the Superregional, but I don't think she's like it much and it's not a good trial to start back on after a break.  I'm signed up to work on one of the days already so maybe not that trial.

So Yoshi has been crashed out ever since he got back at 3:45pm, it's now 9:15pm and he's starting to bark at the other neighbor dogs but the break was nice.  He probably needs to stick with sheep, instead of ducks.  Ducks seem to puzzle him and the don't really hold his interest.  So I have one of each now, a duck dog and a sheep dog - could be worse.

Fri Jul 30
noon - no walk for Yoshi as I needed to do Trek's nails.
Trek is going to Rachelle's agility class at Sharon's so she's going to work with me this afternoon.
[later]
(Trek had fun at work, even got to practice her down stay at times, and she got to demo her jumping skills by jumping over a seated person's outstretched legs which provided much amusement.)

[after class.]
WELL this is a fine dilemma.  She did perfect.  Before class I took her up to the upper field to see if she would do the contact equipment.  She hopped right up on the dogwalk with no hesitation, did a tunnel and a jump and aimmed her at the teeter but didn't tell her to do it.  She went right up and did it.  Then she later did the A-Frame and the teeter again.  Then the class started and I watched this with interest as it's usually not her teeter but the other teeter sounds, and then she won't do a teeter.  Not this time.  other dogs did the teeter and she was able to do one.  I had her off leash when I was setting a jump and she went and did another one by herself (we were walking past it and I wasn't even looking at it - in fact I was ahead of it.  She's happy.  No stress panting.  No trembling.

So what does this mean?  Sharon's teeter is noisy, but she was able to do it and has been for a while now. However sometimes she won't do it when it's on the lower field.  This implies that in narrower confines the sound is intensified.  Power Paws field is open on one side but there's a hedge on the other side which may make the sound echo.  It also could do with unfamiliar surroundings, but I haven't seen her react this strongly since her meltdown in the covered arena in Santa Rosa.  Though then again she does the teeter when it's in the yard but it's not as noisy and it's familiar territory.

Should we continue with PP?  The class cycle started 6/27 though one class was canceled.  I think I'll give her to the end of the cycle and then decide.  It's starting to look like she could just be a drop in there and rejoin the other class though it's getting near full.  Then again she might get used to it, but it would take a long time.  She trembles there and won't usually come out of her crate when she's there without cajoling.

It might be a better approach to sacrifice more money to the agility gods and do a lot of trials in places with very open fields like Dixon and Prunedale.  I think this means she can enter the SMART trial, and maybe even enter Grand Prix where I can stick her back on the teeter.

Thu Jul 29
evening dog walks.  Took Yoshi down High Steet and back via Gibbons - didn't see many dogs.  Lots of streets to cross in the Fernside so it was interesting but more work.
With Trek I took her down two blocks of Broadway which she doesn't like but copes, she acually dealt with that better than going by the school that had some kids playing and some metal clanging.  She did try to drag me home after that so I spent a long time calling her back to me and rewarding that.

My back and left shoulder has been really sore starting a couple of days after running with Yoshi.  It was already sore from a gym cycling class, now it really hurts.  Going to have to come up with another way to run with him.

So I have a dilemma.  Aug 28-29 is a herding trial and the SMART agility trial.  Don't know what to do.  I want Yoshi to get his PT so I probably should enter both days of the herding trial, but if he gets his PT on Sat it would be way more fun to take Trek to agility even with the long drive.  But Trek really isn't in competing form except for jumpers courses.  I'm taking her to Rachelle on Friday to see if I can get her back on contact equipment.


Wed Jul 28
[noon] Yoshi walk - did fine.
Right at the end there was a young cocker being walked by 2 girls.  They stopped for a while and talked to my neighbor so Yoshi and I hung out in our driveway eating treats and playing LAT.  When they started to walk by us I just feed him continuously and that worked.

It's Yoshi and his siblings 7th birthday.  For his birthday he got a bone and I cancelled the eCollar order after a long email discussion with someone who is experienced with them and was telling me that I should get some training in it first.  I'm also realizing that there are other methods that I can use instead.  The beeping collar works well as an interrupter (he really doesn't like it, to the point that he got off the sofa when he saw it.  (I had it out so he could hang out on the living room sofa looking out the window - a place where he routinely loses it and is only there when supervised.)  There is more CU work that we can do as well

Trek was supposed to go to class at ODTC, but I was too wiped out to go.

So it finally occured to me that instead of going to the regional, I can just go to the SMART trial at the same location the weekend before. (Duh!)  I'll just enter her in the regular classes and tempting as it is to put her in Grand Prix I think I'll pass.  The advantage of GP is that there is no four paw rule and I can put her back on a teeter, but if she hops off a teeter then it takes forever to get her to do it again and that won't go over well at a trial.  Early on I did successfully put her back on a teeter during a GP run but she's gotten worse about them.  I could just not put her in standard at all but I really want to get that last PI Q and escape the 4 paw rule.  Closing date isn't until mid Aug so I have some time to think about it and watch her.

Need to put the teeter back up - and mow what lawn is there.

I also have to decide how long to keep her in Power Paws if she's happier at Rachelle's.  I'm going to take her there for a drop in or two and see if she's better there.  I could just have her be a perma drop-in on both classes, though she does so well during the jumpers portion of the PP class.

She keeps eyeing the bread I'm eating - maybe that should be a teeter reward.

Tue Jul 27
[noon] Yoshi walk went fine.

Trek PP class.
Nancy was out working a dog in the other part of the arena so Trek was stressing about the contact noise for a bit but then got into the jumpers part of the class and started having a nice time.  Then the contacts part started and we went back to the car which I had parked a ways off.  She could eat treats while that was going on so I took her out to the potty area and that was too close and she wanted to drag me back to the car.  she was a little better if I was holding her but she wasn't happy and I put her back in her crate.  Eventually she would come out for treats and seemed relaxed so I moved the car closer and she still would eat treats until the metal gate clanged and then she was back in the back of the crate.  I shut the car up and went and checked on class.  They were working on a gamble and I finally realized it didn't involve any contact equipment so she could likely do it.  I went back and she actually came out of the crate without having to drag her.  She was worried about being out there but was sort of able to focus though was acting erraticly at first but then settled.  Right after she dragged me back to the car.  Wouldn't pee.  Wouldn't drink water.

I am frustrated but it's nice that we didn't have to leave the grounds completely.  I'm wondering how long to continue this.

I'm thinking this weekend Yoshi should work sheep.  Not sure which day yet.  He's not really switching on to ducks.

Mon Jul 26
I finally did it. I bought an electric collar for Yoshi.  Figured I should do this before I kill him.

It would also be nice to not always have to have him attached to me, but find a way he can run around.  This does mean letting him run around dog parks where the behavior is not great.  What I don't know what to do is how to start.  With the remote collar we can work on his Barking in the Window behavior.  That will be a good way to see if the collar will work.  But at the dog park is tricky.  I want him to run around but not bite another dog.

I know a friend reluctantly uses one so that her dog can run free but can be kept from going into completely over-the-top prey drive mode.

I asked the CU_Dogs list for exercise ideas and one person said she uses a bike, but is very intrigued with Dog Scootering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHjmABFfGJU

I am thinking that if I attached him to the bike with the regular dog attachment (a walky dog) I could go slow and he would get exercise and if he lunged at a dog he would be tethered to the bike and while he wouldn't be dragged we can encourage him to keep going.

Walky dog
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=12526&cmpid=01csegb&ref=3312&subref=AA&CAWELAID=525362035

Walky dog and related items:
http://www.thedogoutdoors.com/

But the more I read this I think i really should run with him more and just make sure the leash is sttached to me in case I fall.  Maybe one of the rock climbing slinges would work for that

It is funny to think how Yoshi would be with something chasing him.  He would probably be doing his over the shoulder "Monster!" look.


[noon] Trek walk - did fine, no surprises.  On the walk I can tell her to stop (standing), I walk on and then I stop and then have her do a utilityish down and then sit and then recall - it's utilityish because I say the words along with the signals.  She was volunteering heeling today which was fun and we worked on that a little.

[evening]
I did take Yoshi out running at Bay Farm.
Facebook update:
My Corgi is tired now, but it took running/trotting him 2 miles. I dread him getting into better shape. He was still pulling on me after a mile and a half.

Becaise the path along the water can be narrow and there are dogs out walking I put he beeping collar on, which came in very handy.  Twice we ran into dogs in close quarters and I had to use the beep repeatedly until he was able to focus on me.  Once the dog was so close I hung on to his collar to keep him close.  The beep startles and interrupts him for a moment until he can start to react again and I beep it again.  For the most part except in the narrow part right by Harbor Bay there was always something we could hide behind.

I have to remember that use being able to hide doesn't really help his training much unless he can see the dog approaching until we're at his threshold and then we go hide.  If he can't see the dog then there's pretty much no dog which makes things easy but does nothing to help his stress level.  Even near the end he wanted to react to a dog that was only 10' away (fair enough) however when he saw one across the street after his fun he didn't react at all.  He is mellower tonight.  He'll start to react/bark or play then instantly run out of steam.  there's a dog barking and he really must be tired as he'd bark and grouse for a short while then stop very quickly.  Hope I didn't over do it, but he'll be ok.  He usually gets a mile+ walk with a little bit of running.  This was mostly running and trotting.

I'm not sure if dog scootering woutl be right for him as he's a sprinter and does need occasional rest breaks, even if he was pulling on me after 1.5 miles.  (From the Bay Farm paring area to the concrete play area (the one before "Ship 66") where we turned around is just over a mile.

Trek dumbbell.  She can now retrieve on the flat or over a jump.  She holds it for the most part, but still drops it from time to time, but I'm not going to worry about that yet.  I think her original dumbbel is the best size for her.  Then we just played fetch with a toy for a while.

Yoshi's eye continues to improve.

Sun Jul 25
I'm working at the Bay Team's CPE trial today as a full timer.  I was going to be taking Yoshi just for the exposure but given his current situation he'll be comfortable at home barking at the neighborhood dogs instead of being stuck in a crate with a silly donut.  I then thought I'd bring Trek but the point is to give Trek a break from teeter noises so that would be counter productive.

[Later] They both would have hated the site (which is really nice) for various reasons.  Yoshi wouldn't have liked the dogs in such close proximity and Trek would not of liked the echoing noises.

Dog Walks.
The Art and Wine Festival is winding up so both dogs got walked down to Park Street for a block of exposure.  Yoshi would have been perfect but he lunged at a Silky Terrier even though we were hiding behind a truck and he only saw the dog retreating.  I was pretty peeved at him and he got carried rather roughly for some feet.  The rest of the chaos he was fine with.

Trek did well enough at Broadway that I decided to also walk her down to Park St.  One family stopped us to chat and say hello and talk about corgis and the kids got some coaching on how to be nice to dogs and what they like (no treats - I don't do treats and kids)  This was ok but then I decided to walk her down a block of Park St. and that was a little noisy and she got stopped again.  By this time she's shaking and I carry her for 1/2 a block away from Park St. and then walk her.  We even then went down Broadway again for 2 blocks and then headed back.  She wasn't shaking anymore, but she really wanted to go back home and kept trying to drag me.  Every time she hit the end of the leash I'd stop and call her back.

So both dogs are now relatively fine with Broadway.  Yoshi would probably be ok with Park St, but I think it's time for Yoshi to spend a fair amount of time at the small dog park on leash after going on a walk.  Trek will get the noon walk down some of Broadway or High St.  Yoshi will sometimes get shuttled down to the dog park to be walked around it and then consigned to the small dog park to walk around and eat treats.  Small moving dogs have to mean something good to him before I kill him.

Today Yoshi's eye is doing much better and he didn't have to wear the donut.  Hooray. I think the medicine is really helping it heal - the redness is mostly gone.

Sat Jul 24
Yoshi is still fussing with his eye like he was doing yesterday.  It's very red and even though it looks better, I decided to take him to Dr. Friedman.  She checked him thoroughly but there's nothing seriously wrong besides conjuntivitis.  She didn't find any foriegn matter so whatever it was has fallen out or healed and what's left is the soreness and redness.  We're now to give him NeoPolyDex drops on a titrating basis that we've written out.  (3 drops a day for 3 days, 2 drops a day for another 3 days, 1 drop a day for another 3 days, then every other day for another week.)  If he keeps rubbing his eye he'll have to wear a cone.  Right now he's wearing the donut of shame which is much more comfortable than a cone, but if he keeps rubbing at it (he sometimes throws himself into the bed) then he'll have to don coneware, but right now it's ok.



On Sheep.
I've decided that I'm not giving up.  I wouldn't feel right if we gave up, though it might be better for him to learn directionals on ducks where he can hear and think better.  I just always go back to how incredible he did with Judy V. and how she was trying to talk me into putting him in the Trial instead of the Test.  We need to figure this out.  I think while Linda is out of the country we can work on sheep some and just being calm around them.  (Which we have done before.)

Fri Jul 23
Dog Training Day  Yahoo.
Trek Novice Obedience class with Lori
I wanted to do the Open class since that's the level that I'm training her at but Yoshi has a herding lesson he needs to get to later in the day.  Besides having her work on Novice skills is not a bad thing as even though it's something she really likes, and is really good at it,, her obedience training has been haphazard at best so she has some holes.  Her heeling is not always the greatest yet on a heeling exercise she was brilliant.  She's not that thrilled to heel past a seated dog but that never happens during a trial.  Her stand for exam still needs some proofing as she's a little wiggly but all in all as Lori says it's probably good enough.  Her recall is fabulous and her stays for Novice are nearly perfect unless some metal crashes somewhere.  I'll have to work more on her off leash heeling, and maybe spend some time where the treats are no directly on me.

If I want to put her in rally I'll need to teach her a right hand finish as hers is just to the left right now.
I'm very pleased with how she did as she has found the setting at ODTC stressful before but I think she's mostly used to it and she likes the rewards.

Yoshi Duck Herding Lesson
I sum it up in a corgiherders post:

So we're in the process of trying to Yoshi interested in herding ducks
and it's an interesting process.

Ironically the dog (Trek) who we though didn't like herding at all
actually is doing better.  It turns out her issue is more with things
that tower over her.

Getting Yoshi interested in ducks is sort of like starting with a dog at
the instinct test level.

I spent a fair bit of time just walking around with the Call Ducks to
see if we could get him interested, then when he got interested we had
to get him understand that ducks are much more delicate than sheep and
you have to be nice to them and you can't pin them down, and then you
have to get him through the pouting "Well fine I don't want to play
anyway."  AND then he decides well this might be a fun thing to do and
then starts the process of how go get these creatures to move in a way
that works.

I sort of expected to go through this in one session, but it's been 3
(plus one aborted one with Runner Ducks).  This is going to be a longer
process than I expected.  What I'm hoping is that he is able to really
learn some good stock skills and sense in the process since you can't
herd ducks at Mach 9.  It's nice to see him having to really think as
opposed to just reacting.  Though he's still pouting some at being
forced to use his brain more.


I keep wondering if he misses sheep.  I wish I knew.  He's getting a three week break from these ducks so I certainly could work him on sheep, but I'm hoping he'll learn better skills from the ducks.  It's been so nice to not have to argue with him about sheep but now I'm having to encourage him a lot.  It was nice that just walking around with the ducks did get his attention.  Maybe that's a way to get him to work goats again through I watched someone set her dog up right near the goats as they were stopping and the goats walked right up to the dog which is exactly how Trek got flattened that one time.

Back to ducks.  I need to ask more about this but the idea is to have the dog move down the fence with the but you want the ducks off the fence because they like to hide there.  What I need to ask about that is that AKC herding does a lot of herding along the fence and even AHBA does some also, so how does keeping them in the center work with that?

Anyway right at the end of the 2nd session, he was able to stay on the fence and I was able to move into the center and the ducks came into the center and he was able to come around them and change their direction (and I then changed the wand to the other hand) and then we headed back the other direction.  He had been coming in the center himself which is less than ideal.

It was cool to have it finally work.  Felt good.

Yoshi's eye is a little swollen (was that was before herding) and I'm thinking I should beg Animal Eye Care for a same day appt.

Thu Jul 22
I still can't decide what to enter Trek in for the Super Regional or should I just work the trial.  The closing date isn't until Aug 13th, but I really should decide.
I'm pretty sure I want to go though I just did $300 of damage to my car by driving into a concrete step at Power Paws.  Susan Garrett very graciously refunded my class money when I asked since the class is $197 and that will help a lot.

I probably should try the idea of no teeters at all and see if that helps.

Here's what I cam up with before
Sat PSJ Rd 1
Sun
  PI Pairs Relay
  PII PSJ Rd 2
  PII Gamblers
  PII Snooker
Mon (if we were to do it - not likely)
  PII Jumpers

I think we'll just do Sat and Sun and work most of Sat.  The trick is that if we camp them we're stuck as we can't move the car once it's in a "campsite."  This means I have to plan food or we could just hotel it (more $ though), or I could bring my bike and ride down the hill for food.  Wait!  Never mind they're serving dinner on Saturday.  Cool.  And lunch is provided for workers so I just need to worry about snacks for me and dog food.

This Sunday is the CPE trial that I pulled Trek out of but I've offered to go down and work on Sunday.

Noon Trek walk.
So I'm changing our walks, to include Broadway.
Encounter with street sweeper.  We retreated down a side street and only had to go 1 house distance away and she wasn't freaked out.  We went down Broadway for one block which she found stressful but she's coping some panting but no hard pulling or slinking to try to get away.

Yoshi evening walk
Also went down Broadway from Buena Vista down to Central.  He's so good in noisier environments at least with traffic.  He doesn't like booming things right near him, but traffic doesn't bother him at all.  Saw a LWFD across Central who barked at us and he barked back but more in an excited hello way and he was easily distracted and was able to work.  Saw a teeny tiny dog and he was able to watch that too.  Unfortunately his owner crossed the street before we got close so we just watched them across the street.

New mileages (using: http://www.trails.com/googlemap.aspx which is actually much better that the regular Google Ped.)
It's funny how just walking down Santa Clara or Central is much better distance wise than trying to go across them.

Just going in a circle from house to Broadway down Santa Clara down to Court St. is a mile.
Down to High St is 1.2 miles.
I'd like us to work up to walks into town,
House to Park St vi Gibbons to Santa Clara 0.5 mile one way.
via Central 0.6 one way

Wed Jul 21
Noon Yoshi walk.  Did fine.  As we walked out he started to bristle and I pulled him back and then looked up to see a GSD on His lawn but who was retreating.  This is certainly a much more milder response than you would have gotten before.

Trek walk evening.
Went down Broadway for a block and she did ok and wasn't freaked out at all though was very aware of all of the noises.
She's come so far from being unable to be within a house distance of that street.  Broadway is busier than High St so this is raising the bar.  She did well on it on Sunday but this was with some weekday evening traffic (not a lot it was 7pm but still.)

Bone amusement
Gave the dogs bones to chew on (2nd round for these smokehouse bones).  Yoshi was so funny, he carried his outside as if he's going to be a real dog and bury his bone but he got out there and laid down and kept chewing - just couldn't part with it.  He seemed to be worried about Trek so after she peed I put her back in the house and then I went back to him.  When I told him to Go Pee he varied it around.  I took hold of it and we play some tug of war (not severe, not guarding) and I walked us over to where Trek had peed and told him to Give (he did) and I promised he could have it back.  He peed and I gave it back to him and he carried it back inside and back up on the bed where he was originally chewing on it.

He kept it up for another 15-20 minutes and I then traded with him by giving him a treat which worked well.  He obviously needs to be allowed more bones so he can learn to pace himself.

Tue Jul 20
I signed up for Susan Garrett's e-course on Brilliant Recalls.
The idea is to break things down to 5 minute sessions (which I already do usually).
I like to thing that I'm just as good of a dog trainer but she works way harder at it since it's her full time job and she's studied with Bob Bailey, and I always learn from other trainers (well many of them.)

Here is the first prelesson (the class starts Aug 1st.)
http://susangarrettdogagility.com/2010/07/homework-assignment-number-one/

noon: Trek nails and quick walk for Yoshi.

Trek has agility class though we're just going to do the jumper's part of it.

So Dog Distractions 1-10 in order of severity.


Yoshi
Trek
0
radio, wind chimes
wind
1

radio
2


3


4
food on the ground

5

wind chimes
6
person calling him person calling her
7
a good place to pee
food on the ground
8
people with food
people with food
9
squirrel at 10' running
metal clanging
10
dog at 20' running/walking
multiple crashing teeters
10+
a dog standing on his lawn
crashing teeters under covered arenas


Mon Jul 19
Walk for Yoshi and finally did his nails.

Sun Jul 18
Just walks - looong walks.
Yoshi went down Central all the way from High St. to Broadway and then when we were getting close to home turned off to follow some dogs which he did really well with even with one (largish Tibetan Terrier) that was starting at him stiffly.  We actually caught back up with them after chasing some other dogs and he still did great.  Things didn't start off so well as a Golden appeared out of nowhere right at the beginning and all I could do was just hold him with the leash.  What's interesting is that he settled down anyway after the initial bark and lunge.  These days I haven't had to be nearly as elaborate in my set ups as a dog approaches though I do have to be aware of them to have complete success.

Trek's walk had a wild puppy right in front of the house.  I kept saying "take your dog to class" over and over again.  which was probably hopeless but I tried anyway.  Just to make a point I put Trek in a down dropped the leash and walked up to the puppy and said hello for a second.  Then Trek and I went in the other direction.  She also went down Broadway for a while and she did great which I'm pleased about.  I think she's getting used to it and it was Sunday afternoon which is a nice slow time.  I should keep that in mind as a good time for adventuring further forth - maybe even into town.

Trek needs to learn more Tricks though I want her dumbbell better first.  I'd love for her to be able to roll over, back up, and play soccer.

Worked her and the dumbbell in the backyard with her.  She's able to hold the dumbbell and wait for me to take it.  Mostly - she still fiddles with it in her mouth but less so and I can put my hand on her mouth to get her to stop messing with it.  When she picks it up she doesn't get it in the right place behind her canines but I think she'll get it.
She's also able to sit by my side and stay while I throw the dumbbell and she'll fetch it.  (I don't make her sit then)
AND today I set the jump up and put her in a stay with the dumbbell in her mouth which she promptly spit out but she picked it up again and then jumped over the jump with it.
Then i had her stay with me and I threw it over the jump and she went and got it!  Did it one more time and stopped.  This is way further than I was hoping.
I'm using my original dumbbell as it fits her better and she doesn't seem to need the increased diameter.

I'm having a command name collision as I need on for go to the back of the herd and another for Back Up.  I think "Back" is going to go for herding though I've already been using it in obedience but it's not solid.  Maybe that one will be Reverse or Beep.  though it's tempting to make the herding one "back of the bus" but under pressure that's not going to happen.  Back is nice and sharp and works well for herding.  Having a dog take steps backwards doesn't require quick thinking.

Sat Jul 17
Yoshi and Trek Duck Herding
Today was just supposed to be Yoshi's day but Trek asked to go along too, and she wound up doing one of the sessions.
Yoshi isn't so sure about the Runner Ducks and is very leery of them.  This does concern me but he has a lesson scheduled with Linda's Call Ducks on the 23rd and I'm hoping that builds his confidence. 

Trek was better and could actually herd them.  She doesn't know as much about flanking but she's able to move them around decently.  She's doing herding just to build her confidence but she's also proving to be a good Corgi ambassador because she's so easy to control.

I'm wondering if Yoshi should work more with heavy sheep or not.  The skills he needs for fowl are pretty different than for sheep - his willingness to move slower around the ducks is a good thing.  I think it's more an exposure thing, so we'll just do more ducks of whatever type.  I think we need to work more on actually moving the Call Ducks in a specific direction.

Next year's Corgi Trial has been scheduled for 4/30-5/1 2011.  Yahoo.  I have to decide whether to have Yoshi finish his PT there or not.  I think so as the idea of going to a different trial stresses me out.  Though hopefully he'll get to compete on fowl.

Thu-Fri
At Yosemite getting chewed on by mosquitoes and doing a climbing class.  Trek moped for a little while and then recovered, but when I got back wouldn't let me out of her sight.

Wed Jul 14
Prepping for a short Yosemite Trip so no noon dog walk.

My classmates are being so understanding and I'm getting a lot of "been there here's my experience" emails that describe their working through all sorts of dog fears.


Thank you all for the support about Trek.

Your understanding just really underscores for me that issue-free dogs are rare.

I had one (Cali) and in a way it's a bit of a curse as you always then subsequently feel like a failure.

I think for a little while we'll just do the jumpers portion and then say our polite goodbyes, so Trek can have some good time in class..
It's a bummer for me because then I don't get to chat with you all as long, but in the future I'll see if I can find a quieter place in the back parking area though even that may not be enough quiet at first.



Tue Jul 13
Noon Yoshi walk uneventful

Trek Power Paws Agility class.  I'm so torn up about what I'm putting Trek through taking her there.
I just wrote a letter to my classmates about it:

Greeting Tues Power Paws folks,

I so don't know what to do about Trek and Power Paws.  As long as the teeter isn't in use, she's fine happily running and learning great stuff.  As soon as it is then she's a trembling mess and just wants to hide in her crate in the car.  It's not her doing a teeter so much as all the other teeter sounds.  Seeing my sweet, smart, talented dog reduced to such a state is just killing me and I'm really at a loss.
Ironically because you all are so accomplished, Trek could just do the non-contact portion of the class and still get more runs in than at a non-PP class, so it's actually worth the trip even for half a class.  While it's getting harder and harder for me to see her this way (and I have to coax her out of her crate whenever she's at PP), we're going to continue for a little while though I think as soon as you all move to contacts I'm going to put her in the car with her Thundershirt on.  Even what we tried today with us staying all the way at the other end of the field when you started the contacts wasn't far enough away.

She is home now and has recovered though a bit subdued.

I should just let her be the obedience dog that she wants to be, but can't quite face having another dog wash out of agility just yet.  If I would just switch her over to NADAC we'd be fine, but I mostly do agility to spend time with my friends and most of you aren't at NADAC.  I'm such a USDAA person anyway.



It's so awful seeing how she is when she's trembling with such anxiety.  I keep thinking I shouldn't be torturing a dog who is so attached to me.  It's like she can't trust me to keep her safe and that's not very easy to deal with.

Mon Jul 12
A.M. Trek still doesn't want to go outside this morning because of the baking tray that used to be there.
Noon she was still hesitant until she noticed the bread in my hand.  Then suddenly she was very brave.  This is after I had let Yoshi out and she was standing back 20' from the back door.  I think she finally figured out that the tray was gone.  I invited her to look around a little bit and that may have helped I don't know.
She's so funny sometimes.  She really has to decide for herself that something is ok.  You really can't talk her into it (though I still try.)

Trek walk - uneventful.
She's been hiding in her crate at noon and won't come out when I call her (maybe I should use bread but she's 1/2 pound overweight so i don't want to give her too much.)  What i do is go in her crate and clip the leash on and then stand back up and call her and that seems to work for now.  It's not like going on a walk at noon is new for her at all.

Sat/Sun
Not a doggy weekend.  Mostly playing fetch and dog walks.
The parked car maneuver continues to work smoothly.
i made a mistake with training Trek and it was the dumbest thing.
I had been working with her with a baking tray and then had left it by the door and it got kicked accidentally 2-3 times.
Now she doesn't want to go outside - stupid oversight: whack head.
I've moved the tray and we'll see how long before she stops worrying about it.

Fri Jul 9
The Bay Team Super Regional premium is out now, and I have to decide what to put Trek through and what just to work and what I might have Yoshi at.
If we do an overnight then it's really hard to have Yoshi along and get any sleep (to be honest I haven't tried it so maybe I'm just being a chicken, but I do want the time to be mine and Trek's since Trek isn't yet that happy with the environment.

I'm wondering how long do I put her through going to trials.  She may get used to them, but she's not liking them now.  There's already a list of places I don't take her.
 - Santa Rosa's covered arena
 - (The one at WAG is ok because NADAC doesn't have a teeter)
 - Turlock and its trains right beside the ring

So far Dixon, Woodland are fine as long as it's not too hot
and Prunedale is the obvious winner even though it is further away for me and makes driving back and forth difficult though she's ok with staying overnight since that's quiet and she gets a lot of attention that way.

I think camping one day will work.

USDAA Q Check

2 PII Gamblers
1 PII Snooker
1 PII Jumper (ironic as this is her best class - but it's often too hot by the time it comes around)

and the perennial
2 PI Standard
1 PI Pairs Relay (I wasn't going to worry about more Relay till she's at PII - but that's silly if we're stopping Standard for a while, she's running well enough and we can beg off of any teeters.)

I'm rereading the description of Performance Speed Jumping (PSJ) which is another version of Steeplechase.
It's a jumpers style course with A frame and weavepoles one of which is to be taken twice..  There is also a Long Jump which she doesn't see often but since they've redesigned it, it looks like a jump and not a mini dog walk.  No teeter.  Sounds like a winner to me.  There is no qualifying leg required for the Performance version (there is for regular Steeplechase).

So the schedule looks like
Sat PSJ Rd 1
Sun
  PI Pairs Relay
  PII PSJ Rd 2
  PII Gamblers
  PII Snooker
Mon (if we were to do it - not likely)
  PII Jumpers



Thu Jul 8
More dog walk city.  Mark's mom came over and played with Cooper and Cameo so they are already tired which is nice, though Cameo was sore and so we just went out to sniff.

Wed Jul 7
Yoshi walk - the parked car maneuver makes his walk so much easier.  No more hurried street crossing.  What was funny is we did that with an approaching GSD with no problem, even let the dogs directly approach for a little while, but when he saw a small dog across the street and I didn't go hide, he barked.  Though he chilled out quickly.

Tue Jul 6
Dog walk city.  I'm walking Cooper and Cameo today as well.  Both of them did well.  Cameo still gets sore so her walk was about half the distance of Cooper's.  I even used the parked car evasion technique when Cooper and I nearly walked into another dog and person.  Mark had mentioned that they were barky at other dogs but separately I don't see that though Cameo does bark some (not serious though).

Trek's class is canceled today.

Mon Jul 5

I have finally figured out Trek's noise issues.  Took me long enough, though there were some red herrings that threw me off the track.

This doesn't mean I have solved them, in fact I may never do so, but at least I understand them.

Trek doesn't like
 - barking dogs in enclosed spaces
 - humans yelling loudly, or calling out in a stressed way
 - whacking, percussive thudding sounds  - she hates bouncing balls
 - metal on metal sounds, even wind chimes used to make her nervous
    and she doesn't like schools with loud kids and a ton of balls bouncing and metal clanging (this is improving)

One or two of these sounds will startle her, but she'll recover, but things build and in the space of hearing 3 or more closely spaced teeters (or other) she'll start to shake, stress pant, run under cover, and if attached to me will try to drag me to the car so she can be in her crate, and she sometimes (often) will not come out of that crate while the sounds are continuing.  Last time at Power Paws she wouldn't come out until the teeter sounds had stopped for 10 minutes.

Mysteriously Trek doesn't care about
 - fireworks
 - recorded music (even deliberately really loud thudding music with the subwoofer turned way up and the walls shaking - Zzzzzz)

Trek grew up with 25-30 well cared for Corgis.  Many of them live in a large room full of crates attached to the house (actually it's an integral part of the house - I've seen it.).  If you put 25 Corgis in a room it's a good bet that at least half of them will start barking many times a day.

And what do we humans do to shut them up (me included for the first two)
 - yell or shout
 - yell or shout louder
 - whack the wall or table top
 - bang metal (a bigger version of pennies in a coke can)
 - for great effect take a pot and whack it on the countertop

The perpetrators settle down with silly, gleeful expressions on their faces.  What you're not seeing is the quiet dog who is cowering at the back of his/her crate.

One thing that threw me off was that her breeder said that they have a duck hunting season and the dogs usually don't like being outside when the shotguns are going off.  I now think that the only difference that experience made was to make her indifferent to fireworks.

So I'm left with: Now what?  It really helps to understand the problem so I'm not wasting my time on things that don't matter.  But she went through TWO years of this and she's already better but she's 5 now.  She's never going to like it - even with all the continuing counter conditioning.  She's happy making noise like doing teeters, but other times she isn't controlling the noise must feel like a reprimand.

She's actually fine with me yelling at Yoshi to stop barking.  Maybe I should look more carefully to see what it is about that that's ok.  I can also do a lot of counter conditioning with bouncing balls since they are a source of fun too.  But how to make a teeter sound fun besides just feeding her around them?  I think that we'll just have to get some real distance between us and the teeter and just feed her there and work our way up.  I'll have to get to class early to work on the teeter separately before anyone else is on it.  I think us taking a lot of breaks from the sounds would be good too (like the Control Unleashed game Give Me a Break.)

Poor kid.  This could be so fun for her, and I'm hoping it eventually can be.


Sun Jul 4
Just remembered that the raffle person was bringing something I'd won awhile back to this trial so I'm going to drag myself over and take both dogs and work on their issues separately.

The prize was a massage certificate (yay) and a dog snuggy which doesn't really fit them very well, but ok.

I switched off working each dog throughout the morning.

Trek is not happy about all the commotion (gamblers was running and the numbers calling and the horns were a lot and there was a teeter and dogs barking too.
When I showed her to a friend later she didn't see the stress that Trek was going through because it was too subtle and less intense since the only thing going on was the teeter then, and all she was doing was stress panting.  My big clue is her trying to drag me to the car and her crate.  But she was willing to bug people for treats.

Yoshi was happy to get out there and work and did great mostly unless a dog came too close moving (3x) however I had a hold of him everytime, and what was fantastic is that he is now able to heel past many dogs standing or moving (walking).  The trick is getting his attention again after I've given him a treat.  It's almost better to have something he can just lick.  Cheese works great in this case, but cream cheese or peanut butter would work also or even just holding a soft treat and letting him have only a little of it.

It's weird that he's actually now happier in the environment than Trek is.  Sound like we should just go, but not enter or just enter games classes with Trek.

BUT! later when the fireworks start.  It's Trek who's ok and Yoshi is unhappy, but more in the Intruder! sort of way.  I made a video of it.



What is so different about a teeter and a firework?  Something must be about the proximity, but some of the fireworks were quite close this year.
But super close proximity seems to make a difference.  She would likely react to fireworks much closer to her, but even when I'm 150' from a teeter she responds.  One thing is that there are no metallic sounds in fireworks and anything that clangs is like fingernails on a chalkboard to her.

In between agility and fireworks, both dogs went for walks.  Trek's was fine.  Yoshi's was great.  Twice we used a parked car to go around a dog on the same side walk and it worked fantastic.  One we were passing a dog and person who had stopped and the other was a dog approaching.  For the approaching dog, again I waited by the back of a parked car until the dog was closer and then just kept the other dog on the opposite side of the car.  This is actually much easier that having to cross the street.  I do let Yoshi see the dog some but when the dog disappears on the other side of the car he seems not to care.

Sat Jul 3
No agility today.  Phew.
So I'm spending the day going through old photos.  Found some of Flint's cake and retirement celebration and put them on Facebook and sent them to Gail.

Yoshi walk.
A dog on Fairview started barking at him on the other side of a wire gate.  He started to return fire but I go his attention and he sat beside me and was able to heel past the dog (who had calmed down - the dog's people got to watch too which I don't know made any difference at all but things went really well so hopefully someone noticed.

We got to repeat this again for a Labrador he often sees and the two white dogs next door..  Then the real test was a dog approaching on our side of the street.  We stopped right at a parked car while I waited to see if the dog was going to come this way.  They did so we slipped around the street side of the parked car which went perfectly.  Phew.

I need to announce the CU Games DVD viewing party in August.


Fri Jul 2
I managed to come back from Shasta with a Cold and I've been sick for the last 3 days.  Only now sort of functioning.
I did work with Trek's noise sensitivity using a baking tray - either moving or taping it.  It's funny that moving (tilting) it gets the stronger reaction.  And when she goes on overload then she's done.  I can even work with the surprisingly resilient Yoshi and she doesn't care.

She's eaten something that's making her throw up. I think it's a small piece of fruit that the squirrels steal from next door and eat in the trees and drop most of it on the ground.  Can't really tell.  She's pretty quiet right now (so am I).

Her last class at Frielance is tonight.  I think I'll just take her and not worry about Yoshi, as I'm not up to keeping track of two dogs.

Tomorrow she is entered in the Bay Team's USDAA agility trial at Prunedale.  Hope I recover enough to be able to function.
Had an attack of good sense and scratched her from the trial.  I called the vet and they gave me some basic advice but mostly to keep an eye on her.
They didn't think i should feed her but I did because it seemed to settle her tummy down.
I haven't been well enough to train her today so she hasn't eaten anything since breakfast and whatever she was scavenging.  She seems ok so I'm going to take her to her last class at Freilance

Trek Freilance Agility class.
Same deal.  She would do a teeter once when nothing else was going on but no more once other dogs did it as well.  In everything else she did really well and she's getting to the point where I have to jog to keep up with her in the weavepoles.  Deliberately did a few optional rear crosses and she drove ahead nicely.  I even was able to drive her over a jump and have her carry out enough where I could say "left tunnel" and she took it fine without hesitation.

She's always been a little leery of the tire but today couldn't stay away from it and I just left her take it off course twice, because it was so nice to see her running so well.  She was getting stressed by some of the commotion but I put her shirt on her and that seemed to help.  Every so often she'd poop out and I paused and fed her talked to her happily and goosed her or thunked her side.  Such things usually don't work, but they did this time.

Tried the teeter again and lured her up it but she wasn't very happy about it.

Tue Jun 30
Trek Agility Class.
Such mixed feelings.  She is brilliant until they start working on the contacts.
Then she can do one but the exposure to the sound of other dogs doing the equipment makes her just cower and shake even with a thundershirt on which helps some.  I put her in her car crate and then she won't come out again until the class is over, and then 5 minutes past that.  Then we spent time over with Carol and she got to eat lots of yummy treats there, and then since the next class was still on the other end of the field I put her over it once which she did cautiously.  Then I tried it again and she was not interested at all but go part was up and I lowered it just to get her over it.  I'm dropping all sorts of treats on it.

She also didn't want to do the A-Frame, but was ok with the dog walk probably because she could see it from the side and knew it wasn't a teeter.  I think next time before I leave I'm going to give her a calming supplement to see if that helps.

I'm feeling guilty about torturing her but I'm going to give it the fully 6 weeks to see if she improves at all.

So I'm home with a cold and am feeling well enough to do a little experiment and record it.  I took a metal baking tray and am sitting on the agility table with it.  Just moving it makes her stress.  Taping it makes her flinch but less so than the motion.  I recorded that, and have now given her two Pet Eases and will wait about 30 minutes and then try again.  Then I'll do the same thing with a Thundershirt on her.

So we did this  I'm not sure how much the Pet Ease helps her.  The Thundershirt and the regular shirt help but the best thing is for her to take breaks and work it out herself.  Encouraging her more with food only works so far and she shutsdown pretty quickly.

Wed-Sun

[Break for Mt. Shasta]

Tue Jun 22
It occurs to me that "bye" is already taken to as "By me" means sit beside me.  I like the one person who tells there dogs "go around" and "the other way."

Of course "Round" is also taken (turn around)
The multidisiplined dogs - I'm running out of terms that make any sense to me.

Wait a minute.  "Flank" would work  "flank" and "away" and hopefully they don't sound too similar - maybe "flank bye"

Trek PP agility class
Trek hates me right now.  I had to drag her out of her crate.  The she recovered and did well for the first part of the class that wasn't on contact equipment, but when we moved to the contact area she started to melt down.  I did get her through the course twice and then stopped.  The second time I had to beg her to do anything on wood and even had to do the teeter on leash.  Jim had a good suggestion of having her do a trick like spin and then run and do the A-Frame which actually worked.

The first part of the class she did great on and was fine with the rear cross drills and her weave poles are fantastic.  Even during the scary contact part she did perfect weave poles.  I'm hoping she gets used to this.  I'll have to coax her out of the crate with treats.

So I have two dogs both of whom would rather herd ducks than anything.  While this is not at all what I planned it's nice to see them succeed and be happy doing it.

I'm leaving for Shasta tomorrow and Terri has the dogs for the next few days.  I need to tell them to be nice to her.

Mon Jun 21
Yoshi Walk.  Lots of dog sightings - all positive.  Often I just stopped to feed him when we saw a dog - I didn't always insist on playing LAT.  One particular situation had a Cairn Terrier across the street which we walked nicely past and then a lab appears on the same side as the Cairn and the Cairn started to bark and Yoshi didn't, he just played LAT.

Also saw a dog at Gibbons and Lincoln across the street which was fine and as we walked home the dog followed us and crossed over to our side of the street.  When we got to our house we hid behind my Scion and I let him watch the dog for a short while them as they got closer covered his eyes and then let him see the dog retreating on the other side.

Sun Jun 20
Terri and I walked both dogs.
Yoshi is more reactive and tense around Trek but he did ok.  I showed Terri how to hide behind a car and feed him if you get stuck, but the higher valor is to turn tail and go back to the previous side street and go down that 3 house widths and let the other dog go by, rather than risk a confrontation you get the amusement of him looking over his shoulder going "Monster." (As in: there's one chasing me.)

Trek was fine, but totally under foot (mine).  I encouraged Terri that walking them separately is a really good idea.

Sat Jun 19
Set up a little circular pen holding nothing, and introduced them to go bye and away.  The go confuses them so I may get rid of it.  Go means go in a straight line to them (Trek was looking at the mini fence asking if I really wanted her to jump it..  It helps if I say "Out" in front of the cue (since go and come are pretty much already taken) and a push out hand signal.  Maybe it should be "out bye" and "out away" or just "away." Whip smart Trek is already getting it just to be annoying.  Yoshi is less sure but he's getting it.  I'm told that I have to have stock in the pen for it to be effective but I really don't need to own stock, so I'm hoping they at least get used to the verbal cues.

Fri Jun 18
What a great doggie day.  Did both herding and agility.

Both dogs had fantastic duck herding lessons with Linda.  She uses very biddable Call Ducks and it was more a matter of me avoiding stepping on them - which I managed to avoid doing so with effort.  And each dog was mostly very respectful of them and didn't treat them like the moving dog toys that they must resemble.  This was Trek's 3rd time on the Calls and she did great.  This was Yoshi first time with ducks at all and he did very well and I was very happy with him.  This means that if I choose, both dogs have a herding future.  I much prefer this dilemma than neither dog liking it. I think because of money and time and the fact that I'm just learning, we'll just keep training Yoshi.  Trek is happy doing whatever and I had her doing a little herding to help her confidence, but she doesn't need confidence help with Calls.  Maybe with the larger Indian Runners and Geese, but not Calls.

I'm just happy that Yoshi seems to like the ducks and is interested in herding them.

With fowl you have to start out at the trial level so this is going to take some practice.

Agility.
Today was Trek's last agility class with Rachelle which I'm sad about but Yoshi can continue if he wishes.  Today I noticed he seemed much more at ease at the ranch than at agility.  Unfortunately the class times are being rearranged so i won't be able to continue on a regular basis but on the once a month Friday that I take off so that one of the dogs can work with Lori Yoshi could go especially because it will likely be Trek that goes to Lori's lessons for a while now. I think Trek is going to be going to be at the Open level.  I want to get her trained through Open before I put her in the ring.

Both dogs enjoyed running the courses and Trek did a great 3 jump lead out that included a tire.  Yoshi is often a little weird about tires but with cajoling he did this one.  I'm going to give Yoshi a little while back at agility class before deciding if he really hates it.  He is markedly more relaxed in the herding environment.

The last agility class at 7:30 is in two weeks.  Trek's Power Paws class starts next week, but I may put it off a week since I'm doing Shasta prep.

Thu Jun 17
Trek walk got to met someone in an electric wheel chair and she did great.  Went around the corner and there was a couple of people playing catch and the sound of the ball hitting the mitt was way more stressful that any wheelchair, though she was able to eat around the ball play but still stressed.

Yoshi walk.  Had a barking fit at a couple of labs crossing the street near us and coming towards us.  Started out great and then they got too close and I didn't have food out to hold his attention.  However after that he did great and we even walked to the vet to get more pill pockets for Trek.  He was very watchful but did well and even stopped at a local bar to say hello to folks.

On the way back I had two dogs coming right at us an instead of crossing the street we just went into the street and placed a parked car in between us and the dogs.  Riskier since you're in the street and if your dog reacts you have cars near you, but it worked great this time.

Did some more obedience work in the school playground.

Both dogs herding ducks tomorrow - looking forward to it.

Wed Jun 16
Trek - fine.
Yoshi many (around 6 or more) dog sightings all good.

Did some obedience work with Yoshi on the painted school playground.

Tue Jun 15
[will fill in - it's written down on a piece of paper somewhere.]

Mon Jun 14
Dog walks.  Obsessing on Stop for both dogs and they are both getting more solid at it.  Trek I can tell to stop walk away and do a utility routine (spoken cues with the signals so not the whole thing.)  Yoshi is now pretty good at Stop and Down not as good at Sit but I'm not sure I care.  He usually sits on a Stop anyway.  Trek knows the difference and will remain standing for the most part.  With Yoshi I worked more on this in the backyard and off sheep he's really getting it.

A friend said her herding trainer said that Corgi's are apprehensive about laying down probably because they are afraid of losing the sheep.  That might be some of Yoshi's issues but I haven't been able to get a reliable stop so he more gets downed   If I could get him to Stop I would do it.

I've arranged for a lesson for them from the duck's owner on Friday.  Trek will have a good time but I'm really interested to see if we can get Yoshi intrigued.  Yoshi may have to switch over to fowl and while he's been on geese once he hasn't been on ducks.  I'm hoping he can learn better skills with the fowl and then maybe go back to sheep though that's a huge leap.  I think regardless he will try for the rest of his PT in Sept as he's ready.  There are two trials pretty close together and I'm wondering whether to enter one or both of them.  Probably just one, as that would be two tries for one leg.  I'll have to ask around which one to enter.

It's official!  Trek is now in the Tues Power Paws agility class. I have something scheduled tomorrow so she will start next Tues on my birthday.  I've sent Rachelle email saying that she's switching and could maybe Yoshi have her spot since things appear to be working with him in the class and he seems to be having a nice time.

Sun Jun 13
She did it!  Trek got her HCT with me driving.  Fortunately in HCT they can coach from the sidelines so I got a lot of help.  She did grip a duck and I did hit her with the stock stick (lightly).  She immediately released the duck (now that I look at it she released on my voice first) and startled completely disengaged and ran off a short way, but I was able to get her back with out a lot of begging.  What's really cool is that she has a stop and she was able to look back and retrieve one duck that was behind.  There was an amusing exchange between me and the ducks' owner who was also my sideline coach (and is also a judge).  She said that you're not allowed to hit the dog because the public doesn't like to see dogs hit.  We both agreed that it was ironic because the public doesn't like to see a dog biting a duck either.

They tell me that Trek could do well at this with with training.  I don't know as test levels usually don't have ducks so we'd have to start at the much harder trial level.  Though interestingly enough both dogs can train at this level.  This would not be cheap unfortunately.

I did make a video and after some consideration I've decided to include it here:
Keep in mind that this is essentially her 2nd time on ducks.



Sat Jun 12
Trek AHBA Trial
Well Trek made it clear she doesn't care at all about sheep.  I could get the sheep to follow me (they'll come along with me - all I have to say is let's go sheep in a happy voice) but she wouldn't even come along unless I kneeled down and called her.

The judge asked it we wanted to try ducks instead and I immediately said yes.  I've had her on the ranches indian runner ducks but these ducks are the smaller (cuter!) Call Ducks and she really liked those and with the judge's expert handling (get close, but not too close) she Q'd.  The judge is allowed to help at the Test levels.

I've asked if maybe we can squeeze Yoshi in to try HCT ducks, but I haven't heard back Unfortunately no because they only have two sets of ducks. and Yoshi can't go back to HCT since he already had his JHD.  HCT is not a stock specific title.  JHD is though so in theory if offered he could do a JHD on ducks.  I could probably talk them into doing it if i wanted to.

Trek won a really strange curly coated stuffed toy pig that Yoshi has cheerfully stolen.

Fri Jun 11
Agility class for both dogs.
Trek did well and Yoshi seemed to enjoy himself too.  Trek has hit her stride again.  Let's see if trials don't mess it up again.  Her next one is Bayteam July 4th weekend (just Saturday).

Yoshi's first two runs went well though he's of course tentative.  The third run he was more distracted and even popped his weavepoles to go see the donkeys though I was able to call him back to weave in the other direction.  I still don't have him jump near where the other dogs are even though they're in crates/xpens.

Oh no! Bad news.  Super-Corgi Porsche has a partially torn acl and Debbie's consulting with surgeons to see what the best thing to do is.

Thu Jun 10
Today out in the yard I blew the herding whistle
I thought both dogs came until I realized that Trek was running past me to go hide in her crate.  Sigh.

Trek dog walk fine  - I lured her out of her crate with cheese.

Evening Yoshi dog walk.  He did really well.  3 dog encounters all across the street (one I crossed the street for.)  I was feeding him cheese so he seemed particularly attentive but if a dog had really bothered him I could have been holding anything and he'd still bark.  But in all cases he looked at the dog and then looked back.  For the first dog since it was smaller terrier like dog I started feeding him immediately without asking for a behavior.  He liked that a lot.  Leslie does this in her DVD so I no longer hesitate doing it.  Scary dog?  Let's eat.

Dumbbell work with Trek.  She'll hold it but is a little tired of the game so i need to switch it up more.  I sometimes have her retreive it which breaks things up.

Wed Jun 10
Trek still wouldn't come out for noon so Yoshi went instead.
She went later.

Dumbbell work inside on a Yoga mat and it went fine.  Yoshi will even hold it for a little while.

Tue Jun 9
I'm realizing that Yoshi likes his cue's more sharp or louder and to get away from yelling at him I should consider switching over to a whistle, so i get it back out and start back on getting a reliable sound out of it.  when I first got it I spent enough time to figure out how to make it sound and then put it away as a fun toy, but not something I'd use.  Now especially with sheep or even just an ordinary recall it could be useful.

Yoshi really likes the whistle.  Sound sensistive Trek on the other hand hates it, and went and pouted in her crate and wouldn't come out for a walk at noon though she did later.

Dog walks: fine.
Dumbbell work for both dogs.  I think the wooden one is too big, but it was nice to see it in comparison - I'll see if I can sell it to someone at ODTC.
Trek is starting to learn Hold.  I'll hand it to her and touch the bottom and top of her mouth to encourge her to just hold it.  It's working gradually though she still wants to spit it out.

Mon Jun 8
Still bummed about how Yoshi still is not calm and doesn't listen when he's around lighter sheep.   I can get him to calm down if we're all not moving, but as soon as they move he floors it.  He's so good at keeping sheep together, but if I can't control him it doesn't matter.  If he was around sheep every day then he'd likely be able to work through it, but not twice a month.

[later]
I'm remembering how good he was with Judy Vanderford (name used with permission), and how good he's been with other people.  I clearly need to take myself out of the sheep picture here.  I'll do the fowl and goats but he's just a nut case around me and lighter sheep, but he may not need to do sheep.

I think it's his fear kicking in  He would be fine out side the pen but inside he would just bark, though interestingly enough he was ok in the larger pen with the slower sheep.

What I can't figure out is whether he still likes sheep or not.  He's really uncomfortable with light sheep but the slower ones seem ok.  Maybe we should go in the larger pen and completely ignore the sheep and see how he is, or am I just making him miserable.  I don't think, so as if he's not happy he won't engage.  He actually gives the goats calming signals, so it's pretty clear when he's not happy.

It's interesting the way he is with fearful sheep is the way he is with fearful dogs.  Really really pushy and somewhat aggressive.  He stops listening and he charges in instead of gathering.  So competition-wise he has a couple of PT runs (4 if I choose since the shows are close together in August) and then that's it save for Judy Vaderford's mellow trial sheep, unless he changes which doesn't seem terribly likely.  If he never did sheep again would he miss it?  I don't know, he seems really interested, but it could be anxiety  I can now tell the small round pen isn't going to work anymore, save for going in and doing nothing.  Maybe i should have an animal communicator talk to him.  I did this several years ago and what I really like was that my belief wasn't required for it to provide useful information (it's very freeing to not have to agonize about an imponderable) and it's not that expensive.  Though I do wonder how much they pull from your own head instead of the dogs.

I'm really hoping I can get him intested in goats again.  And it's going to be fun to see if he will herd ducks.  Fortunately there won't be any fear issues with ducks and I'll be very careful about which geese he sees.  In the meantime we're in to rush for sheep as the GSD trials aren't till August and I know he can Q now even with me driving.

Dog walks both fine.

At some point in time I should start bringing Trek to Wed night ob class, but there is a lot of training I can do here so no rush there.

Sun Jun 7
Both dogs went herding today.  Trek really wanted to go so I decided to take her along.

Yoshi spent his first session screaming at sheep in the round pen.  I didn't even let him off but instead just sat with him.  Then gave him a break.  The sheep were puzzled but happy he wasn't after them right then.

I then put Trek in briefly and she sort of walked around with me and the sheep - not really herding but may be enough to pass - don't know.  I took her into the larger arena but the sheep never settled down and we left which is funny because she's so soft but she's a bit darker in color.  But the trainer's dogs are dark and the sheep don't seem overly disturbed by them.

Took Yoshi back into the round pen and he was just riling up the sheep and one crashed the fence (which is what got him kicked out at the other place with sheep) so we switched over to the larger arena.  He actually did better in there as he was able to round up the sheep and we could do some moving of them.  He still has trouble stopping but when the sheep are calmer so is he.  Worked some on the walking down the fenceline problem of him peeling the sheep off the fence.  If I keep him on the side of the sheep instead of letting him go all the way behind then things work better.

In response to the trainer's usual lecture about Yoshi needing to have a down on recall, I got to cheerfully demonstrate his fantastic off-sheep down on recall at 50'. (He looses his mind around sheep and doesn't listen but with no sheep or dogs around he's great.) Convinced, she changed the plan to more long line work around sheep. He's such an enigma.

So I'm still back to what should his performance future be?  If I can get him to just chill out around sheep then he would be great.  But it's been years and he's still not really calm around them and to go to the trial level the sheep are usually lighter and less sane.  He's crashed sheep into fences before and he's not really getting how not ok that is.  It's probably time to start him working ducks.  Ducks take a lot more control, but he has it if he's willing to work them.  I'm hoping he decides that goats are ok as he does so well with them.  He has the skills to get that last PT leg and that might be a good time to end his sheep career.  I suppose we could wait until the Corgi herding trial though they won't have one for a long time.  But after all that typed I'm thinking it would likely be really good for him to learn how to relax around sheep, but it's not that urgent.  And it would be good for Trek's confidence to do a little herding too - we'll have to see how she does next weekend at the trial which starts at 8:30am sharp.

Just heard that it's ok for Yoshi to continue to attend agility class  that is another thing that should help his confidence.  I just won't run him when we're on the lower field which is over threshold for him when the other dogs are around.

I think we'll let Yoshi do the agility class and learn to herd ducks.  Trek will get the agility class and get more serious about Open obedience.  Yoshi has earned a break from obedience.

Sat Jun 6
Couldn't resist doing a Facebook update:
Doing mat work with Yoshi while I work on the computer.  It's a fantastic off switch when he's decided to bark at everything outside.  Except when he can't stand it anymore and leaps up barking because it's an EMERGENCY!  I call him back to the mat and he does this pathetic (but really funny) crying, which means he's going to do what I ask but it's really, really hard.

Dog walks.  Took Yoshi through the park and looked at a couple of dogs from a distance which was totally fine.  Walked right past the Tibetian Terrier at the corner of Central and Fernside.  Yoshi started to lunge at the dog who was behind the fence, but I quickly stopped him and then he seemed happy to eat.  The Tibby was really intrigued by the food, but i found that he mostly just wanted to be petted which I did through the fence.  This was a great and safe way for Yoshi to deal with a type of dog he usually doesn't like.  It was really sad that the Tibby was so starved for attention.  Maybe I'll go say hello more often.  The park itself was way busy with screaming children and skateboarders.  Yoshi did great, but it would be Trek's personal hell so i didn't take her there, though she did come with me down high street to check if the theatre box office was open for Terri.

So I'm rethinking future plans for both dogs.  If Yoshi decides he likes agility class it might be really good for him.  Some limited dog interaction and he can work on his agility skills.  Given that Trek is moving to Power Paws at the end of summer then he could have Trek's spot since the class isn't full.  I'll have to check if this is ok with Rachelle but it sounds like it is and she knows that Trek will likely be leaving.  This might be more fun for him than continuing obedience classes.  Trek will be happy in the obedience classes and she's already working on open skills like dumbbells.

Yoshi and I will continue to work on herding sheep calmly (and will continue this tomorrow - mostly let's walk down the fence line without pushing them off the fence), and of course stopping when there's sheep around.  I don't think I'm going to take Trek as I want the sheep next week to be a surprise.  Though she does well in Joyce's round pen so I'm not sure, Trek like's being with me through whatever though she has her definite limits.  Of course, now I want to take her.

Fri Jun 5
The weather at Shasta was rainy and icky so I actually drove home today and was able to take both dogs to agility class.  We put the dogs away when Yoshi ran and I fed him a lot during his runs.  He actually did ok.  Knows the obstacles but of course is a little tentative.  Almost agoraphobic in a way.  He did start to leap at one dog and I immediately collared him.  After seeing Leslie McDevitt's DVD I'm way more free with feeding him.  Fortunately he's lost that 1/2 pound he'd gained.  Unfortunately he appears to have given it to Trek so now she's going to get 1/3 c too.  Trek ran well too though was a little tentative at first because my attention was split.  I set up one crate and covered it when Yoshi was in it.  He still sometimes barked when a dog was near but it became less so during the class.  I may have Yoshi in class a couple of times a month as it would help him to focus, but I have to keep in mind that this is Trek's time but I'm having her herd so it seems fair.

Wed Thu
Off to Shasta

Tue Jun 1
While I am disappointed that Yoshi is afraid of the goats I have to keep in mind that the goal is to have him calm down enough around sheep since he knows he can move them.  I also want him to work ducks though that may not work.

Tempting to try the thundershirt but it would just get sheep poop all over it.

I'm going to Shasta this week and when I'm back it will be Trek's HCT test, then after that we can maybe work on it.
He will be in agility class on that Friday before.

It's tricky.  He's calm enough with HTrainer2's school sheep, and it a bit too energetic with HTrainer3's.
He mostly needs to learn to walk a fence without peeling the sheep off so I think that means lots of fence walking with HTrainer2's sheep.

Yoshi walk noon. Mostly just worked on Stop and Sit etc.

Trek walk evening.  Went down High St which is mildly busy without a thundershirt and she's so much better these days.

Thundershirt has released more before and after videos and while it pains me to watch the before one as the dog is so over threshold, it is impressive to see the dog calmer with it on.  I put it on Yoshi for a little while tonight I had to give him a stuffed kong to keep him from trying to take it off, but he definitely was calmer with it on.

Mon May 31
Yoshi walk
Not many dogs.   We caught up to one Golden who could hardly walk up his stairs to his house.  Not exactly a big threat.
Yoshi was very amped when walking so we did a lot of Stops and Sits and Downs which calmed him down some.

Trek walk
Took her down to Broadway (busy street) to watch the traffic and there was a U-Haul with an empty trailer rattling so we stopped and I let her eat string cheese as it went by and I gave her some when we reached Broadway as well.

Had am amusing conversation.  Someone on her porch had noticed me feeding Trek cheese and was asking about it.  She's not a dog person and was wondering if it was ok - I told it was in moderation.  She was very complementary about how "clean" Trek was.  I said thank you at the same time envisioning how coated with sheep poop she was after the goat had flattened her (both sides of her neck were completely coated and I hosed her off at the ranch and again at home), I decided that was too hard to explain to a non-dog person.

The owner of the medium sized short hair dog on the corner walked by as I was chatting with my neighbor.  I mentioned that Trek was friendly and she said their's wasn't always.  I then told her about Control Unleashed and how much it had helped my other dog.

I'm thinking more mat work would be a good thing for both Trek and Yoshi.  Though he's on it right now as I type.

Domino the zen kitty helped both dogs play LAT on a feline.  This cat is amazing as Yoshi had stopped and was barking right at her and she just kept sitting there looking back.  I got Yoshi's attention and then we did LAT for a while.  Then Domino was still there when Trek and I went by and so Trek and I also did the same thing. Thanks Domino!

Sun May 30
Dull day for doggies, but they had fun being out in the yard part of the time barking at things and digging where they shouldn't
Trek got to show off her new dumbbel skills for Patricia and Susan.  Yoshi also got to show where he's at in the process and they both got to do a teeter.

Watched more of the CU Games DVD.  Leslie is just amazing working with the dogs and she's so good at reading them and explaining what she's observing.

Barbara who saw Trek get pinned down by the goat was very encouraging and noted that she didn't freak or scream or run away so she might not be completely ruined on goats.  She might be right since Trek is willing to go near them cautiously.

Sat May 29
Drat Drat Drat.

I had Trek on goats and she was doing ok and I had just stopped her and a goat pinned her down and now she doesn't want anything to do with them.
I kept taking her in and just letting her be there but she'll only get so close.  We put her on light sheep in a small pen and were able to lure her in but she's a bit shook.  I've decided to try her on sheep instead for the HCT but I'm not sure if that will work either. 

I'm bummed because the goats are a blast when they are not being recalcitrant, but now I have two dogs that don't like them.  And the bummer is that it I had stopped her further away from the goats this wouldn't have happened.

I guess this means stick to sheep, though she doesn't like how big they are but she has noticed that they move when she asks.

Yoshi seems to be feeling better but I briefly took him in the goat pen and he wouldn't even look at them.  Trek at least will look at them

Fri May 28
Agility for both dogs.
Well agility for one dog.  Yoshi appears to have pulled an abdominal or quad muscle and doesn't want to hop up on things so we just did ground work mostly having to do with Stop and Down at a distance (the herding related commands.)  I'm not sure how much he'll enjoy being in a class, but we'll have to see in a couple of weeks.

Trek on the other hand was awesome and I'm so happy with her.  She can now go over a jump and send to weave poles and do all 12 poles with me at least 12' away.  She now sends to tunnels quite well.  Doesn't have issues with any of the contact equipment including the teeter.  With the teeter I was careful to stay slightly behind her and not get ahead of her which seems to encourage her to leap off.

One thing she had trouble with is doing a tunnel after doing the poles, but I'm not going to push her as she's already doing great.  I do have to remember not to chatter.

"Over tunnel go" works for a jump and send to the tunnel sequence.


Thu May 27
Trek walk at noon  - not as wet this time.

Yoshi evening walk.  If I'm paying attention he's great but if he sees the dog first he still fusses.  First sighting was 2 vislas off leash going to their car and he was great.  The one he say first was an Aussie who clearly wanted to play though was acting still and hard to read.  Once I got him into a sit he was able to hold it but he was barking at first.  Still looking for dogs and trying to reencounter the Aussie (which didn't happen) we went into Lincoln Park and actually worked a little one heeling.  Right as we were leaving I nearly walked us into a Boxer.  I took a fast left and went a distance away (still in the park) and had him sit.  The owners must have thought we were going to come play as they stayed there for a bit but I just smiled and kept feeding Yoshi who was doing great.  They eventually realized that we were just waiting for them to move and they continued on and we went home without further encounters.

Did more dumbbell sessions.  If I keep this up I could easily have a retrieve on the flat in a couple of weeks or so with Trek.  Again we would split up holding the dumbbell with toy fetch which she's really loving interspered with the oocasional dumbbell retrieve and when her attention started to flag I would do the Control Unleashed Give Me a Break where I let her go sniff and only resume the game when she asks.  This is such an obvious concept that I can't believe none of us formalized it before like Leslie has done.

Then on a whim I stood up and offered the dumbbel to Trek she took it and since I was standing she sat and looked at he holding the dumbbell in her mouth.  I nearly fell over as I've been trying to figure out how to get the concept of sitting and holding a dumbbell to go together.  Every time she has the dumbbell and I say sit she drops the dumbbel and sits.  So I stand up lean over offer it to her saying Take and I stand back up and let her hold it a few seconds and then bend over and say yes and she releases it sometimes dropping it, but not too bad.

Worked a little with Yoshi and the dumbbell.  He's so cute as he still after all these years still hold his foot up when retrieving.  At first when we got out there he just wanted to bark at Sky who he can hear on the other side of the fence but eventually was able to focus and do some retrieving.

Both dogs will take the dumbbell and let me hold their nose to help them hold it sometimes.  Trek is fine with this, but Yoshi doesn't really like it.

Herding
Trek is going to be doing goats this Saturday and I'm really excited about it.  I have to remember that what intrigues her is their motion so I should get the goats moving first and then with any luck she'll come right along behind.  If there's time we can have Yoshi try ducks though he really doesn't get fowl yet, and it's possible they don't move fast enough to hold his attention.  If I can get the goats to move with me he might be willing to come along especially if I stop nagging him.  Maybe if I completely ignore him.  If Trek gets good at it I could have them in together but that's a much more advanced thing.  I am really diappointed that Yoshi suddenly is afraid of the goats as I had high hopes for him as he was doing so well with them.

Watching some of Leslie's great CU games video trying to figure out what parts to go over in a viewing party so that we all can practice it.  Most of the main folks have had enough CU training that we can just go straight to disc 2  Each disc is about 1:20 so doing all of 2 and some of 3 would do well.  In particular, I want us to see the parallel games and the dog in your face game and may be the car crash one though the fist two are actually more advanced and would be the hardest for Yoshi.


Wed May 26
Rain walk for Trek fine
Basic walk for Yoshi

Got the dumbbel out.  Trek is willing to hold it for up to 5 seconds.  I'm finding that she almost whinces when I say hold (might sound too much like how I say no which is pretty neutral and low), so I think I'll stop doing that and just say take or nothing.  I break thinks up with fetch using the dumbbell squeaky toy.  Sometimes I'll have her fetch the dumbbell but I don't insist on her holding is.  She still mouths it so maybe a wooden one will help - not sure.  This is a plastic one.

Yoshi can fetch too to a lesser extent.  I should probably work with him more indoors since their are fewer distractions but the dumbbell is kinda tough for them to pick up from the floor instead of the grass.

Spent some time deciphering J & J Dog's dumbbell sizing.  It took forever as the key to figure it out wasn't on the page I was looking at:

http://www.jjdog.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=jj&Category_Code=2CATPaintedWoodOnePieceCompetitionDumbbellPAIWOPCD

The numbers signify 1/4" increments.  An 8 means 2", a 9 means 2 1/4".
The one I have is 2" on the ends so I want 2 1/4" (a 9).  Unfortunately the bit size on the one I have is 1 3/4" and they don't make that size except as a custom so I decided to try one that's 1/4 larger - a 9x8 (end size x bit size). 

Asked Facebook for opions and one experienced competitor says that it's better to use plastic while they learn so they don't chew up the wood.  Since I already have the plastic one I figured I'd try the wood since it's not horribly expensive (less than $20 with shipping), though I can always get another plastic one too if this size works better.

Tue May 25
Had to work late.  One of them got a boring noon walk though I don't remember who.

Mon May 24
So I wrote this to a frend;
I stewarded the Rally Ring all day and the progression/degradation of the dog's temperaments and comfort level was fascinating.

The experienced rally dogs all seemed to be having a good time, the advanced dogs were a little unsure, but ok.
But the novice dogs seemed at best just ok and a significant number of them were sulking, and not having a good time at all.

Obviously this is because of the training of the handlers mostly, and maybe because they are must less experienced (both dog and handler).

The bummer about this is that while I can mostly get Yoshi to behave around experienced dogs, I pretty much know what kind of hell he would think I had condemed him to by making him spend waiting time around 5 unhappy, snarky Cairn Terriers.  He's really happy working, but I don't see him competing even on leash.  I could make him and he would probably be ok but he'd be miserable.  So for the second I think I'm going to set the Rally Novice title dreams aside.

I'm also wondering if a vibrating collar would help keep his attention when he's on sheep or training in agility.  I'd want one where if there was a shock option that it would be hard to accidentally press.  All the ones I've looked at are much too easy to confuse the buttons.  i could use his empty citronella collar but that makes him RUN to me so I don't know how helpful it would be into calming him down.  I probably should go back to the chair and a book idea that one wise soul suggested.  Right now I can get him to stop but he'll just sit there and bark and bark and bark.  Of course this is at sheep.  If he would only do that with goats he'd be fine but instead he's just a big chicken.  I should teach him to bark on cue.  I did this for Cali and now Trek, but he pretty much only barks exactly when i don't want him to.  Strange men working on the house and squirrels.  Maybe if i could find a squirrel robot.

Sun May 23
Stewarding at Oakland DTC Obedience Trial in the Rally Ring.  It was very fun and I enjoyed it a lot.  The bummer is that I can totally tell that Yoshi would hate it because of the commotion.  I had originally thought he could be permanently in Novice Rally (because it's all on leash), but it's a funny thing as the day wore on the less happy and more stressed the dogs seemed likely because of they are less experienced and their people are more stressed.  There was more than one Cairn Terrier who seemed particularly unhappy though other ones were ok.  I can assure you that Yoshi would have totally hated it.  It is a disappointment because he's trained through Rally Excellent (though on leash, he would likely be ok around the excellent dogs, but I won't take him off leash as I don't want to endanger his herding career.

Now that I think about it he might actually be happier being a tourist in the agility environment (or maybe even doing the FEO at CPE on leash) though I have walked him around an obedience match before, but that wasn't waiting to go in a Novice ring with a slightly crowded together bunch of nervous dogs.  It's hard to know as he actually has more emotional control when he's moving less, but given how he is with dogs moving around him that may not matter.  Any he usually pauses an instant when he's about to make a bad decision though I don't always have time to intervene then.

Sat May 22
Herding
This was supposed to be Yoshi's day and it mostly was but Trek wanted to go along so I brought her.  She still completely ignores sheep but she's way intrigued by goats.  Actually wanted to herd them.  I could see the light bulb above her head.  So I'm going to work her next Sat on goats and maybe enter her in HCT goats June 12-13.

Yoshi on the other hand is continuing his I-hate-goats strike.  He won't even look at them and only will go near them if I'm dragging him on a leash (twice).  We got some brief time on the school sheep and while he did okish we're still having the same arguments.  However I can get him to stop more readily if not entirely reliably.  HTrainer3 doesn't like that he goes straight for a sheep that's strayed instead of flanking.  Others I find worry less about this when the dog is still training but honestly he should know better by now.

I think it's time for him to swtich over to fowl and see how he does. He's been on them once and while they still puzzle him he could do well at it.  I have scratched him from the June 12-13 trail and I'm likely going to put Trek in HCT on goats in it if there's still room.  Next week I've asked that they both go Trek on goats and Yoshi on ducks.

[later]  There is room!  So she's now in HCT on goats which is the very first class at 8:30am in Pescadero.  (Zzzzzz).

Fri May 21
My dog training day.

Trek first went to the eye dr to get a tears test to see how her new medication is working.

Her tears are in NORMAL RANGE!!  First time ever.  I am so thrilled though it means her taking doxycycline (an antibiotic) the rest of her life.
Left eye is at 18, and it's usually at 6 with one time at 9.
Right eye is at 22.

She still needs eyedrops but it's much more manageable.

Yoshi class with Lori
Went to the Open class.
It was good but he did snark at a passing dog.  It's the sudden movement near him.  It's like a weird "you're too close go away"  Once time I carried him out (very unceremoniously) to let him chill out and then we went back in.  There were a lot of good moments, but there are some dogs there who are a bit snarky too so it wasn't perfect though he is able to mostly cope.  I have to decide whether to maybe take him back to the utility class where there are fewer dogs and they are quite solid, he has been to the Open class twice and each time he has been ok but uncomfortable.  Given that he's never going to compete in obedience seriously it can be whatever class fits his needs best.

Trek agility
She had a nice time
She is really starting to enjoy running and we're starting to work together much better.  She had some very nice runs.

Also spoke about maybe Yoshi doing an occasional drop in.  That is ok. I can run him on leash (or not) and the other dogs would be put away when he runs.  I think I want to do this some with him to see how he is.  Rachelle also described to me that in CPE I could do a For Exhibition Only entry for him and keep him on leash.  This is intriguing.  He might actually kinda like that, but he'd have to be in class for a while to get a feel for it.

No class next Friday, but we can bring our dogs to practice.  Then next week I'm at Shasta so Yoshi won't get to try class till June 11.

Wed May 19
Noon Trek walk fine.  Got to meet a neighbor and did ok.

Evening Yoshi walk.  Because it was later in the evening we weren't seeing any dogs so we did a lot of training instead. Stop. Stay. Sit. Down. Walk. Come.  Wound up working on Stop and Come the most.  When he's distracted he pretends not to hear me and I have to pull on the leash to get his attention.  then he goes back to being perfect until his attention drifts and we do it all over again.

Then near the end I see a GSD walking towards us on the other side of Gibbons.  I have his sit and he watches the GSD walk slowly by who even looked at him.  What a good doggie.  He was calm and didn't even really tense too much.  Even offered LAT when he made eye contact with the Shepherd.  Phew!

Tue May 18
Yoshi does clean up well
 



Yoshi walk noon - Trek didn't want to go so he went.  Worked a lot on Stop with me moving or not.  Stop gets a pause.  Stop Stay works better.  Stop Sit or Stop Down or Stop Come also work.  Yoshi Stop also is effective.  Saw a pair of dogs that we caught up to and walked parallel with briefly.  One dog was staring but not menacing just curious.  Yoshi was fine.  He was prancing as we caught up but seemed to relax when we got up to them (across the street.)

Trek evening walk.  She wanted to go then.  Checked if she understood Stop and she does.  Practiced a lot of heeling which she offered so it went well.

Mon May 17
I was concerned that Yoshi might still have a tick on him so I bought some Zodiac flea and tick shampoo and gave him a thorough bath and he's looking very fetching right now.  No more ticks after the 9 that I pulled off of him.  I did let the stuff soak in for over a minute just to be sure.

Both dogs were great when Cathy came over for our DVD night.  Yoshi sat beside me while Terri let her in and then we were able to calmly walk up and say hello.  He of course later exploded at the window at a passing dog and I held him while he spazzed out and then calmed down.

CU Games DVD is here - now to figure out when to see it.  I'm going to be having viewing parties for it as well.  Tempted to wait till August when Terri is out of town but I don't want to wait that long.

Sun May 16
Took Y herding to his other training place and he did great on slow sheep.  There were some lighter sheep there but the wouldn't stop running so we just gave up.  But the heavier sheep were perfect.  He can mostly stop though HTrainer2 wants him to be able to stop while I'm moving which may be asking a bit much, but she wants me to keep working on it because she sees that he wants to do the right thing and is trying, and she likes his stock sense and how he manages them even if he does split them up from time to time.

My big challenge is that we don't appear to be able to walk a straight line along a fence with stock.  Yosh gets behind them and the sheep move away from the fence.  I must be doing it too as the sheep will follow me when I cut back to the fence (these sheep trust me which is nice).  I think when I turn to Yoshi to get him to change direction I just be getting behind the sheep too much so they turn because I'm not at their heads/shoulders.  I can do a very nice front cross in agility but can I walk a straight line?  This remains to be seen.  However if this was a PT run it would have not been terribly elegant, but would have been an easy Pass.  I think a few (say 2-3 or 4) more times practicing how to walk a fence line and we can go get that last PT leg at a trial up here.  He still barks a lot but with test sheep that will work.  Light sheep make him nuts so I don't know about that save for a lot of exposure and working on distance and Stop.

Just to make things challenging a neighbors Aussie was across the fence.  Yoshi stopped and barked at her but it was obvious she was totally friendly and flopped on the ground so I was actually able to call him back to work (twice).  If the Aussie has wanted to fence fight I'm not sure if I could have gotten him back but it was nice that I can now get him to refocus sometimes.

So I don't know how he'll now be around goats, he might be fine.  HTrainer3 has some ideas that we can try next week.

I was carrying a crook similar to what Judy V. in S. Calif was using and it worked better.  I can't find it on the internet so I'm hoping it's just the black color so I've instead ordered a black graphite wand from Border Collies in Action (http://bordercollies.com).  This will be way lighter than a crook anyway which I like because the crook is a bit awkward and heavy for me.

Sat May 15
Went herding and he didn't want anything to do with the goats!  He was afraid of them and they were carefully sizing him up.  When they didn't move right off he decided he didn't want anything to do with them.  We even then went to a smaller pen and gave him the smallest most mobile ones who readily came along with me, and he still wouldn't engage mostly though one time I put him in a stay and went across the pen to the goats and then he came running up but wouldn't go any closer.  I'm hoping it's just a bad day for him though we'll have him herd sheep tomorrow to get him going again. 

It was strange to see him fearful and he was doing a lot of snarking at dogs on the other side of the fence (offset aggression), though what surprised me was that I was able to sometimes call him off of doing that which is a nice change.  HTrainer3 noticed that he was crying when I called him off and I explained that it means that he's going to do what I ask, but he doesn't want to.

I hope all of his behavioral improvement doesn't mean curtains for herding.
He is entered in a trial to get his JHD in goats.  Hope I'm not wasing the money.

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Stopped off at Half Moon Bay to go to the beach.  I wanted to check out what this huge building on the bluff was and it turned out to be the Ritz Carlton and the sign said there was free parking for Coastal Access.  What a great way to check the place out and it was a lovely walk and we found a way down to the beach.  The only bummer was that he brought back 9 ticks.

Fri May 14
Agility for Trek socializing for Yoshi.
Both did great.  Trek ran well and didn't freak out about what anyone else was doing and even went toward some barking dogs to get attention from another person.  Brave girl.  After Trek was done I brought Yoshi out (and had him out earlier too) and he did great just being around the activity.  He was even able to sit and watch 2 terriers go by at a distance of around 30 feet.  That never would have happened before.

When the other dogs had left the field I took a few minutes and ran him off leash.  He's out of practice and tentative but he did fine.

Thu May 13
Trek walk.  Deliberately low stress.

Yoshi training.  Deliberately high stress.
I decided that I was getting tired of looking around and hoping we'd see a dog (though we usually do), and I really wanted to work with him around small dogs.  So I took him to the small dog park in Alameda.  I usually just have him inside but he seemed mostly ok so I took him in on leash.  He was stressed and sometimes coped sometimes didn't.  Amazingly two or three dogs approached us because I was feeding him goodies.  He was a little freaked but decided that having treats mainlined was ok and he started to ignore the occasional dog who would come up.  I carefully let him interact with some and some he was surprisingly good about though I was concerned about a Chi that he snapped at (I have my hand in his collar).  I was pretty surprised that the Chi came back - brave doggy.  There was also a fox terrier who came right up and I was totally worried that things were going to go really bad but they got along fine though the owner noticed my trying to keep Yoshi from interacting too much and I said that he wasn't that great with other dogs and the owner called the dog.  Though later they said hello and it was going well enough I told the owner that it was ok and he actually had a good encounter.

We then walked the perimeter of the dog park on the outside and practiced doing on leash walk up and sit with the Canadian Geese (we were not very close to them).  He's much more interested in the dogs than the geese which he most just doesn't even see the point of.  Then I tried to wipe some goose poop that he'd rolled in off of him and then some big dogs walked right by and he was a barking fiend. (sigh).  I then had him spend a little time on the outside of the small dog park but I'd pretty much had enough by then.

So it was mixed  I like the fact that if we're in the park I can control his interaction and I can make it very clear on what I like and don't like.  But I can't control the other dogs and these are not obedience dogs - they are unknown.  After we had gone in the park and once he had settle down, he was actually pretty good, but I do worry when I can't control all the factors.  If I wanted to be completely safe, I'd just have him outside the fence but that's not the whole experience and the fence adds frustration all the while keeping everyone safe.

I think I should keep him outside for a few minutes first and then consider bringing him in once I've had a look at the other dogs there.

Trek has agility tomorrow and he's going and I'll try to go early again.

Wed May 12
Trek noon walk.   Again the kids were at recess so we headed down to the school.  She did great.  Screaming happy children, bouncing balls, metal clanging.  We were across the street eating treats.  She was definitely chomping but not horribly so.  Then the bell when off and all the kids stopped (how odd) and then the aides were telling them to walk back to class (seemed pretty authoritarian but oh well).  As a result though, Trek and I were able to cross the street to the same side of the school and eat more treats and then we walked along the school where the kids where lining up.  Figuring she's had enough we walked on with her trying to drag me home when she knew where we were though we did stop and say hello to the crossing guard who fed her treats.  What a good dog.  I think we'll go on a calm walk tomorrow just to give her a break.

Yoshi walk.  Uneventful, the only dog we saw was a Lab at about 2-3 house width distance.  He's usually not very reactive to Labs in general, but even so he's up on his toes and checking the dog out.  I wonder if I'll ever be able to get him to relax around dogs.  I can mostly manage him fine but it would be really nice if I could get him to not be so stressed.  Even the sight of a new person excites him.  Guess that just being a dog.

Tue May 11
Trek walk.  The school was in recess so we headed over.  In the past I couldn't get easily to across the street this time she did much better.  Was able to stand across the street with screaming kids, balls bouncing, and metal clanging.  She wasn't thrilled but she coped much better.  We were on our way back and a shadow started moving and so did Trek.  I looked down to see the Shih Tzu that always barks at us was out and racing around Trek.  After a moment I could see that this dog was friendly and soon had rolled on his back.  I saw that he had a tag on an it was indeed the same place and we were right in front of it so I opened the gate for him and let the people know later and I refrained from not lecturing them about giving their dog more attention.  I said that he was friendly and the guy seemed a little surprised and implied that it varied.  I'm just glad I didn't have Yoshi with me.  I could have coped but it wouldn't have been easy.

Also encountered a recycling truck a couple of times and we waited for them to move one once they were done.

Yoshi walk.  Saw one dog come out of a house and surprised both of us.  He barked and we retreated and since the other dog was moving slow we were able to calmly cross the street and play seated LAT.  Then since it was early in the afternoon we went all through Lincoln Park looking for dogs and didn't see any.  Just as I was lamented that fact a front yard started yelling at us and Y. started to charge and yell back.  I finally got a look at what was barking (felt like I was watching Lost for a moment there) and saw that it was either another Shih Tzu or a Tibetan Terrier.  Getting Yoshi's attention here was really hard.  Collar corrections really weren't doing anything (they often are of limited use when he's upset), but grabbing him and pulling his fur did work.  Now that I think about it.  Grabbing hold is what dogs do (In fact I just did it now as I type this when a dog outside barked and it settled him down).  They don't do collar corrections people just started doing that because it was easy.  Once I had Yoshi seated the other dog settled down and I apologized to the other dog that I didn't know if I could feed him.  The second we'd move he would start barking again.  I stopped and settled everyone down twice and then gave up and we walked off.  Yoshi was fine and the other dog was barking which is probably a long established habit.

Mon May 10
Trek walk uneventful though it had been raining and she didn't pout.
Yoshi walk weather's still iffy so we only saw one pair of dogs but it was perfect and I'm really pleased.  We had to go towards two dogs approaching before we could turn off walk a house width down and sit and watch them go on by.

Sun May 9
CU Focus First Advanced workshop today.  It's for Yoshi but I brought Trek too since she makes a great non-reactive stooge dog.
Yoshi did very, very well.  We got there early and from near the back of the room watched each dog come in.  He did this without reacting though he kept a careful eye on everyone.  But him not reacting to dogs entering the space is a huge milestone for him.  We also repeated this at lunch too.  The only times he reacted (and yes he did react every so often) was not standing with space around him, but when a dog was near him and his crate and then moved or walked by.  If I had him out on leash he did not react at all and we milled around with the other dogs quite a bit, also at the end of class I had him out in the ring area playing fetch and he was able to focus on that instead of the dogs around (who were all tired by this point).

He still needs more mat work though I'm really glad we were doing some these past two weeks.  I'm leaving the mat out by my chair as it's easy to work on it that way.  It makes for such a nice off switch.  I hadn't done a ton of it because he was always more comfortable in a crate but it's a nice skill to have.

Now I need to figure out his next step.  I think it's transitions where he's not good.  I will bring him to agility situations a lot more now.  It's also tempting to take him downtown more often but the stakes are higher there in a way as there's not a lot of room to escape like there is in agility contexts.  I also have to decide whether to take him to obedience more.  I originally was thinking yes but he does better in a larger space so I'm not sure.

I'm very happy with him and Trek got lots of attention as well.

One thing I now realize that I forget to work on is Reorienting whenever his crosses a threshold.  Every time he crosses a threshold he is supposed to stop and sit and look at me.  This might help some with his focus and impulse control, and the sample of the CU Games DVDs show this.  I mentioned this to Terri but I should show her what it looks like.  One easy way to do it is to have him on a leash when going out and then taking him off on the landing.

Tried it a little tonight.  Crossed the threshold and he just stands there and is so intent on listening that he doesn't even respond to his name which means that we really should work on it a lot.  Sometimes making a kissing sound would help other times not even that would do it.  Just waiting worked the best eventually.  I don't use treats here just release him from the leash.  He'll get it.

Sat May 8
Just learned that the Alameda Park Street Art and Wine festival is going on so I'm going to drag Trek down for a short while.  She usually hates it but copes.  I carry here when it's too noisy.

We just got back. She did much better than I thought. I think the visit to Dog Bone Alley (http://www.dogbonealley.com/) and Books Inc (http://www.booksinc.net/) made all the difference. Then we went into the vacuum store and I have the perfect vacuum test right there with me. I just put some of her fur on the test carpet and they were able to demo the vac with a real like example. :)

Going there she started to shake when we got within a block of Park St and I carried her to Park St and down part of it.  Then we stopped and I got some Calamari and we sat on a bus bench and suddenly she got distracted with all the goodies on the ground.  Annoying as that we to police it really helped her stress level and then we were able to walk down to Dog Bone Alley.  We were actually able to walk all the way back down Park St to Lincoln.  She did want to drag me some and I mostly let her but on the whole she did fantastic.  Maybe distraction is a good tool for her and all the lovies that she got from DBA and the book store (one of their employees used to have a Corgi named Cooper.)  I can totally see making a habit of going down there.  I bet I could pick up food to go at Bowser's pizza or Tomotina and they'd probably let me pay for it at the door.  Or maybe I could have someone at DBA hold her (we spend a fair bit of money there).

Now I have to think of something for Yoshi.  There were too many dogs appearing out of no where in close confines for him to be at all comfortable.  Too bad as he'd do fine with the street chaos.  As I write this he's being really barky and didn't want to come back to his mat though he finally did (this happened multiple times).  Since there are enough dogs around we could probably go within a block or so of the festival.

Just took him on a normal uneventful walk and that was fine.  Though I'm now doing more of what Cali and I did by going down by the condos.  No sign of the off leash lab but there are other dogs there too though they must have all been at the street festival.

So I'm still thinking about him in agility:

Greetings CU_Dogs_SF

So Yoshi keeps torturing with the fact that he still remembers how to do all of the agility stuff I've taught him - to the point that I use him to train Trek.

While it doesn't seem like he'll ever be trustable enough for the chaotic world of agility trials.  It occurs to me that maybe he could keep training in it.  However he has bitten other dogs (bite and hold) and I obviously worry about that.   I thought about an eCollar, but these his chomping incidents sometimes happen so fast I doubt I'd be quick enough for it (though now that I think about it I did have some time).  Has any one tried doing agility training with a basket muzzle?  It didn't work for us at the dog park as he could still pin a dog down but in the context of agility class that wouldn't be the concern.  I was thinking it wouldn't allow him to pant but that's silly as greyhounds and terriers run muzzled doing their respective sports.  I do have a basket muzzle that fits him and I could modify it so he could have treats.

My other question about the use of muzzles is does it make a dogs behavior better or worse?  Eventually the goal would be so that he doesn't need it, so if it increased his frustration then that wouldn't work.


Fri May 7
Noon Yoshi walk.
He gets the noon walk today since Trek has agility class tonight.
I expected the walk to be completely sleepy but we actually did see a dog most of way through.  Turned out to be perfect as it was a tallish corgi/pug type dog who stopped and stared at us with one leg raised as Yoshi sat.  Yoshi held steady.  Good boy. 

Trek class.  Both dogs are going Yoshi as a socializer.  I try to get there early so Yoshi can be out on the lower field (on leash for a little bit before Trek's class.  Didn't get there that early, but he still had 5 minutes to hang out with the previous class briefly.  No surprise appearances of dog fortunately and Ally held little Eva up (though she was already there so no surprises but he groussed at her last week so it was probably wise though I did let Yoshi sniff her a little) and a Lab (he rarely has issues with Labs just standing there.)  After Trek did her last run I put her away and got him back out again.  I then have him watch the last of the class from a distance and then sometimes so some more obstacles but he was groussing about Ruby a Cattle Dog X (I think) who was doing some work so I let them be and we followed the other dogs out.  We sometimes hang out and socialize after class and I did with Yoshi and he was fine until he started insisting there was a monster in the dark down the driveway by repeatedly barking (not loud but persistent) so I put him away in the car and he settled down.

Trek did great in agility!  She may actually be starting to enjoy it.  This class could easily have been one where she would quit because there were two additional dogs one who liked to bark a lot, and one of the dogs from the previous class was there in a crate and sometimes barking.  So while I had Trek's crate set up near I also had her out with me away from the noise and she seemed much happier that way.  No real obstacle issues and we did all of them, and her speed is improving.

Thu May 6
Agility Videos from last weekend are here:

PI Standard run in which the teeter is jumped off of as usual.




PII Jumpers run - qualifying




PII Snooker run - qualitying even though we only got through 6 and did 7, 7, 2 for the opening




I need to make up a chart for Snooker scoring.  There are several ways to approach it but I tend to look at it in terms of how many points do I need if I get up to X in the closing.

It's funny how rumors get started.  I mentioned having viewing parties for the CU DVDs I just ordered and now people are talking about them.  I think we have to wait for the DVDs to get here first.

Trek walk
I've decided that I need to up the ante with Trek so we went on a very simple but challenging for her type of walk.

All we did was walk down the street, stop at Broadway a semi busy street (but busier than High Street the other busy street) eat some cookies and leave.
Oh and walk past a school (twice) where a class of children are out with a ball that occasionally bounces (this is a huge issue)
Oh and a reactive dog behind a fence (not as much an issue)..

She did great, though she was really bummed that I wouldn't let her eat the human cookies by the sidewalk.
I'm really impressed with her being able to walk past the school.  She wasn't thrilled about it but was able to cope ok which is way way different than weeks/months back where she could only go up to a corner across the street from it.
I didn't make her walk down the busy street as I've done in the past as it's really too much right now and I wanted her to succeed.

Yoshi Walk.
It's so based on the other dog.  First dog he was up and barking at because the mini Schnauzer was barking at him.  He was sitting ok, but right after I relaxed and said hello to the owner and was about to move on he broke and lunged hard, but fortunately I remembered from yesterday to hold his collar so was able to reset him pretty easily.

Then we headed for the school so we could work more.  Let a Cattle Dog cross our path and we followed them briefly - we got pretty close to them.  Everybody was so calm which is amazing since it was not long after his outburst.  Then we went down Santa Clara towards the park and crossed by the front fenced yard of a Golden Doodle.  This dog barks but is friendly but we usually don't go right beside him.  Tried it this time and the dog started to bark and Yoshi started to join and I had the good sense to not have us leave the scene in a hurry but instead I placed him in a sit and both dogs instantly got quiet.  Then we were able to calmly move on.  I'm very happy about that.  Then we had 2 dogs go by on the other side of the street and I was feeding Yoshi pretty often because on of the dogs was a Boxer right on the edge of barking at us but instead was just starting at us.  Yoshi did great and kept his stay.  Then after one more block, a nonthreatening black Lab walk past on the other side of the street  No problem and we ended the walk by walking parallel with a GSDx.

He's not as responsive to "sit" so I've started emphasizing the "t" more.  It sounds more like "sit-tah" but it's working much better.

Wed May 5
Happy Cinco de Mayo

Kong has a new treat dispenser and I'm just imagining the hell Cali would have made of my life if she had had one.  She would follow me around with an empty Kong and pointedly bounce it on the wood floor over and over again trying to get me to put something in it.

http://store.clickertraining.com/wobbler.html?source=mnl_1005

Big News.  Leslie McDevitt (well actually Clean Run her publisher) has released her CU Games DVD!  I've ordered it.

http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2357&ParentPage=whatsnew

3 DVDs!  I may not leave the house.  I can already see some things with the sample video that i could teach Yoshi.
She has her BC Easy exit the crate and stop and sit and look at her for a C/T.  I use the opportunity to charge out the door after I've said ok as a reward but I have less control that way.

Trek noon walk.
She was able to walk by two different people hammering right there on the side walk.  I need to find a way to up the noise/activity ante.  I think we can go back to walking with in a block of Broadway and see how she does.  She has walked down a block of Broadway but she was dragging me to get away.

Yoshi evening walk.
I decided to walk him down Broadway and he was fine with respect to the noise.  However we did discovery a limitation with him and other dogs.  If the dog is mellow and not confrontational he's fine.  But across the street a tallish JRT-like dog was barking at him and calling him all sorts of names.  Yoshi was totally "Get that Dog" and I was having to force him into a sit which he fought until the dog was even with us and then he relented since it was clear the dog was going to go on by and had settled some.  Later on there was a smaller dog perhaps a CKCS or a Shiz Zhu who was barking at him and this time I had him by the collar and he was better able to keep it together.  I don't know if it's my hand on his neck that made the difference or the dog or both.  We had just steered around a Sheltie and a GSD without incident, and just for practice we followed them for a few blocks before turning off.

Tue May 4
Trek noon walk.  Watched a Trash truck pick up.  We kept a distance of a street width and about 1/2 a house width.  She did great.  Also walked by some construction where they were using  a "Wacker" which is a large but hand guided machine designed to pack down the earth.  It wasn't on to day but it was yesterday and she was able to walk past it ok.  She must be getting braver though still goes through the "I don't want to" mood swings.  Today she didn't want to come to me to be leashed for her walk but when I went and got her she was all for going.

Yoshi walk.  Still building on success.
Across the street viewings of 2 moving JRTs and then 2 also moving Vislas, but the real win was that we crossed Central and went down to an area where there is often an offleash older Lab.  I saw him and his owner out talking with another Lab and his person.  As we got quite close, instead of crossing the street we just went around them by going in to the very quiet street and going around the parked car that was right beside them.  We also stopped and sat before and after we were past, just so he could get a good look at them. AND then we turned around and went back the same way (the Lab folks didn't seem to mind fortunately.)  Yoshi didn't seem stressed at all by the slow moving Labs.  He was stress panting at the JRTs, but held his stay fine.  I made sure to tell him what a good boy he was.

Mon May 3
Trek walk
She walked past a mower (he had reduce the rpms but it was still on, and a nearby line trimmer. She did great and we weren't too close to risk getting hit by anything.

Yoshi walk.
He keeps surprising me at his progress.  As long as we avoid surprises he does great.  He sat and watch a Lab walking down Lincoln on the other side of the street, and then later we went over to the school and were following an Aussie and a Poodle and another dog appeared across the street so we sat and watched them go by, then we caught up to the Aussie and Poodle but another Golden came up on a side street so we followed them instead.  The best part was that the Golden stopped to talk to an LWFD (little white fluffy dog) who was off leash in front of his house (with his owner).  We paused for a short while and then we walked around them by walking around a parked car.  We didn't have to cross the street.  We pause and sat after we went around to take another look (they are only 15' away), then I fed him a treat after he looked at them and we went home.

I am thrilled.  I've been trying to come up with distances that are closer than a street width since he can handle that with calmer dogs.  I don't like being in the street but working around parked cars is one way to do this.  I think on the less busy streets this will work.    None of the dogs we saw today were reactive which made we could go closer.  Now that he's not in a frenzy we can work a lot closer to the dogs without worrying him or the other dogs or owners.  What a huge step.

Cathy came over for our DVD night and this time I put Trek in a crate and had Yoshi on leash and had him sit as she came in and had her walk up to me and shake my hand and only then did I release him from his sit-stay.  I only had to tell him to sit twice and once he understood the game he was great.

Excellent news!  Yoshi can practice on the goats before his JHD on goats.  Cool.

Trek is still reminding me that she wants her teeth brushed.  And she's still happy to pickup Yoshi's toys that he drops in the yard when I ask her to as long as she's paid for it.

Sun May 2
Yoshi Walk.  I was debating whether to do something more elaborate but I'm happy that I wound up just walking him as there were some good experiences.

Saw one on Lincoln just as I was talking about Corgis to a neighbor who had one lost him at 15 and wanted another one.  The dog on the street was a lab across the street and he did great but I noticed another dog coming who had in obvious self defense was walking down the street itself since both sidewalks were occupied.  When I saw that dog I realized that it would be too much so we moved on while we were ahead.  Then we crossed the street (Court) and let the dog that was in the street but who was now back on the sidewalk catch up.  Yoshi did great but was a little unsure.  I looked at the other dog and noticed him starting at us.  Well no wonder Y's a little uncomfortable.  That dog moves on down Johnson and we continue down Court. 

Later we saw a dog that was colored like a Border Collie moving slowly and we let them pass on the other side of the street.  After they had passed we were about to move on when Yoshi saw the dog again (they had turned around).  I had him sit again and let them pass.  He did great both times. 

Then we saw a Corgi.  We crossed and let them pass.  Then we chased them down as I didn't know the dog.  His name was Buddy.  He's 3 and she says he's not great with other dogs.  But the other dog actually looked ok.  Curious and unsure but not hostile at all.  So I had them do a half circle around each other and meet briefly.  Yoshi wasn't being terrible pushy but the other dog was ducking a little (he would move forward and shy back slightly when Yoshi swung his head closer, so we separated them by my walking a foot or two away with Yoshi and then I had Yoshi sit in front of me so that Buddy could sniff his but and he did.  Dogs are so much more comfortable with the rear end, probably because there's no teeth.  That done we said good bye and we walked home.  A very surprisingly productive and positive walk.

Later on Yoshi was losing his mind about a dog barking outside so I had him do a leashed stay on a mat beside me and the computer and that seemed to settle him down nicely.  A couple of days ago I just put one of their mats beside me at the computer and it's working well as a chill out zone though often Mr. Y gets leashed for it.

During the walk I was wondering if I had taken the full-on adversive shock collar route with him and his aggression how would he have turned out.  Don't know as while he's pretty resilient, his neuroses would probably have come out in force and if he had transferred he frustration at the corrections to other dogs then he wouldn't be safe off lead so it's not like he would have had a brilliant agility career anyway.

Sat May 1
Trek Bayteam Agility Trial at Prunedale
The most amazing thing today was she didn't quit (the weather was perfect).  She tried to go back to the car a few times when walking on leash, but I was able to distract her by doing a session at the training jump each time.

Last night I had a flash that we were going to get 3 out of 4 Qs.  We came close.  1 Jumpers, 1 Snooker and she got the Gamble, but didn't get enough points in the opening (25 seconds which is way short).  She did bail off the teeter in Standard but never once left the ring which I'm thrilled about.  I was deliberately running her slowly so she could focus.  As a result she didn't run by any obstacles though just didn't have the speed for the teeter and the A Frame I did have her do a better run at so she could get up it.

Given that I'm not sure I want a 3rd PII/Advanced Gambliers Q just yet, conveniently arranging to not get enough points in the opening sounds like a fine idea (though there's not a way we could have gotten enough this time though we would have been close had she not knocked a bar.)  That way we get to do the gamble correctly without being forced into Master's Gamblers.  Elf tells me that not many dogs got that gamble which means that it was not just a gimme.  I was a little surprised that she didn't seem to have any problem with it.

I'm just so happy that she might actually like this game.  It really makes a difference that I was being so low key, and even though she was running slow her speed appeared to pick up and I can always go faster too when things gel better.

These are her first PII Jumpers and PII Snooker Qs.  The previous runs she was all over the place and over time or trying to quit or in one case I screwed up the snooker run.
Her Gamblers Q's are nice and consistent. One from VAST Turlock in Feb and one from Haute Dawgs in Oct of last year.  It's funny I don't think of VAST as that sucessful but she did get a PI Standard Q there as well so I shouldn't whine too much.  Eventually we'll get out of PI, I can now tell.

Fri Apr 30
Trek agility class
She actually seemed to have a nice time.  Again I let her have space away from the others and she seemed to do well and didn't quit.

Thu Apr 29
Trek play session.  I had to go to Pet Food Express so there wasn't time for a walk for her, but I did get her a new Air Dog which Yoshi promptly stole to dig a hole for.  when I retrieved it (ha) I rinsed it off put Yoshi in the house and had a great fetch session with her. I would give her a treat about every 3rd time.  The toy is slightly oblong in that oh so suggestive cucumber/stick shape (here's a photo: http://www.dogtoys.com/kongairdog1.html).  the longer shape makes it easier for her to pick up.  Yoshi thinks it's a bone.

Yoshi walk.  Exploring his limitations.  He can sit and stay while a dog is across the street.  He can almost sit and stay when the neighbor dogs are out (though this is really, really hard).  However once he's amped up because I've been insisting he stay and correcting him when he doesn't (when I think he should be able handle it), he can stay but he won't do something active like "touch" (poke his nose into my hand).  He can down.  He can sit.  But that seems to be about it.  Nothing active that takes his attention away from what he's watching except to briefly eat.  This is good to know as with many dogs distracting them with something they know well helps.

We spent some time just sitting and watching people walk by and it's interesting that staying helped relax him some.  Corrections do agitate him if it's something he's worried about.  If there had been a dog we would have retreated as he's very protective of HIS house/yard.

Herding Trial!  There's going to be a herding trial at Pescadero June 12-13, and they are offering JHD on goats.  I checked with the person putting it on and it turns out that AHBA separates out even the JHD by stock so Yoshi can get a JHD on goats which is just perfect.  I'm excited.  I've checked with HTrainer3 to see if Yoshi could come back to just work goats and she's going to check on Sat.  Even if he can't practice ahead of time, with goats we could probably walk in cold on a JHD couse.  So I sent in his entry today.

A friend has graciously offered her goats to Yoshi and I to herd even before this came up so that's another possibility.

Started packing for agility this Sat at Prunedale.  PI standard is first thing in the morning so we actually have a chance of Qing and getting out of Started.

Wed Apr 28
I have been looking all over for replacements for the rounded collars they have.  No sign.  Lots of leather braided collars, but hardly any fabric.

Trek walk.  Fine.

Yoshi walk.  So so.  Good moments and not great ones.  It's windy and he was amped.  Saw a smallish bouncy dog coming at us and we walked toward them for a bit and then ducked down a sidestreet.  I deliberately didn't go as far away - less than a house length less than 100' and that was too close and he barked and tried to lunge.  I wrestled him into a sit but it didn't seem to make any impression.  Then the nearly same situation occurred but our position was very different.  We had just started down Gibbons and saw a dog crossing Gibbons.  The sightlines were great and he was able to sit and watch them cross the street and pass on by.  The distance was about the same, the difference was that he wasn't surprised.  So what I need to do is arrange it so he can see the dog as soon as possible.  I used to worry about this because it lengthens the time that he sees a dog approach, but that doesn't seem to be as strong a factor is to help reduce the amount he's is surprised.

We also stopped and let a kid named Celeste spend time with him petting him, and a dog appeared in the distance and he started to bark.  I pulled him away from Celeste (she wasn't upset and nor were her parents because I had a hold of him, but he still wouldn't relax until the other dog went away which is a bummer.

Tue Apr 27
Midday.  It's raining lightly so I think Trek is going to get dragged out for a walk.  Since Trek's PP class hasn't started yet I think I'll take Yoshi to a Rally drop in class at ODTC tonight.

Trek Walk
She stopped for the Trash Truck and we were able to stand and wait until it drove by.  No panicking.  Cool.

However:  Yikes.
Just had the welds break on the 2nd of 3 fifteen year old dog collars. Right as i was thinking about it I suddenly found that the leash was loose.  Since i was expecting it I called her even before I looked down and of coruse she was right there.  i was able to cobble together the collar together with the snap leash and we finished the walk.  Fortunately Yoshi is walked on a martingale so even though he has the last one, it will likely be ok since it doesn't get the same amount of wear and tear.  Right now Trek is wearing the leather rolled collar.

I think a good rule of thumb is new dog = new collar. Too bad I can't find more of these collars though they're really nice. Cautionary photos to follow.

Yoshi Rally Class
He did pretty well.  6 dogs one he hasn't liked in the past as she's a bit reactive, unconfortable around other dogs, and stares.  During the runs (we had 4), he did great and was able to concentrate.  The other times I mostly just put him in the wire crate in the side room.  There was one time where i had him doing what they call an "honor stay" where he's on a sit while another dog is doing the course.  The CU dog was nearby and barked at the St. Bernard.  Yoshi the joiner, immediately started to lunge at the CU dog and I dragged him away before he go to her.  i am annnoyed that he has this much of an impulse control issue still even though he is able to behave under most other circumstances, but except for this rather huge thing, he did great.  I think I can start putting him in Rally fun matches to see if he's ready to compete and begin his perma-novice Rally career.

Mon Apr 26
Trek walk uneventful

Yoshi walk.  I deliberately walked around the school perimeter which is usually a guaranteed of dogs but it was past 6pm and they all seemed to have gone.  Went on the long version of the rest of our walk and still no dogs ... until of course we nearly walk right into a small golden as we were just about to turn on our street.

Mr Y. hates surprises and even though I immediately turned around he was barking furiously.  To the point where I just stopped and retreated only a very short distance and decided to make him sit while the Golden walked by.  This became a tough wrestling match and he really only sat when the Golden had past.  Great now we have to go look for more dogs to work on this.

So we walked past the house and headed back towards the school.  Fortunately there now was another larger slower Golden walking with his Dad and 2 kids.  They are going slow as one is having a tempertantrum.  He encouraged us to pass, but this was a perfect moment as we had approached from behind and were fairly close and Yoshi even after his previous outburst seemed fine.  I deferred but asked him to tell us if they were going to turn around.  In a bit he said that they were and we actually walked past them within 10' of the dog.

As it is with kids they decided that they actually wanted to continue so they crossed the street to walk along the school.  We went back to following for a very short while and then two more dogs (together) showed up and Yoshi was able to side while they walked past on the other side of the street and then crossed over to our side right after they had passed us.  Yoshi did great and I'm very pleased so we then finally got to head home.

It is our DVD night with Cathy and when she knocked they were barking but then were ok about going to their crates - though Yoshi always wants to hop on the sofa first.

Sun Apr 25
Took Trek along to visit Mark and Jan just so she could have the experience of going over there without being abandoned.  She kept close track of us the whole time.

Fri Apr 23
Trek Eye Appt
Her left eye is still at 6 mm/min on the Schirmer eye test as compared to 21 mm/min on the right which is normal.  Dr Friedman has decided to try her on Doxycycine tablets (100mg) which is an antibiotic and antiinflamatory.  It can help with the scratchy feel of a dry eye and may help with tear production, the only down side is that it might make her nauseated so I have to figure out a good time to try it - maybe tomorrow.

Just to mess with my head, Yoshi threw up his entire breakfast, so Trek isn't starting her medication today.  He still seems fine so I'm going to give him his breakfast again as treats.  I think it might have been the Innova Senior food that I was giving him as treats yesterday.

Yoshi Class with Lori.
So I decided to try him in the Open class.  He did very well and I was happily surprised.  It really helped that the dogs there were pretty good in general.  Unfortunately there was one PWD who was grousing at a Golden there and Lori was telling the owner that he really needed to stay on top of this.  I kept Yoshi way far away from him and when that dog started to grumble I took Yoshi aside to give him a break.  The heeling exercises he did very nicely on, including the figure 8's with some nice steady dogs.  The stand around and practice something specific made him a little uncomfortable, but he was still able to focus, but when the dogs started moving around more to work on retrieves he was a little edgy so I pulled him aside and worked on the side and he did very well.  His attention is only about 45 minutes in stressful situations so I took him outside to wander around some.  Then we watched from outside and also from the hallway.  Then when the class ended we went in and did the heeling part of the Utility class.  The only time he reacted was when one dog walked in (a Duck Toller who he's seen before) and surprised him and he reacted pretty strongly and it's clear to me that he would have charged the other dog if I didn't have a solid hold on him.  What's interesting is that other dogs did walk in but they didn't surprise him.

Maybe at the CU workshop I'll practice with him on a stay watching dogs come in the building.  Unfortunately I don't know how to counter condition that surprise reaction or even if I could.  I have to remember to say his name pretty loudly to get his attention.  I had him firmly by the scruff to the point he was hurting himself and he was still struggling (even while crying which is really sad) though relented pretty quickly.

Trek has agility class tonight.  Can't decide whether it will just be her or whether Yosh will join us.  I'd love to have him watch the class before but there's a dog in it that's just as nasty as he has ever been and that sounds like a bad combination.  The last thing I want to do is confirm for him that he should be paranoid.  That's the nice thing about training him around good obedience dogs.  They are often very well behaved.

[later]
Both dogs did fairly well.  Trek did not go on strike and seemed to enjoy herself and Yoshi wasn't perfect (he tried to charge one of the small dogs - Eva a LWFD - which he was decidedly firmly corrected for as this clearly falls into the being a jerk category rather than something he's afraid of.) but someone else (actually Eva's mom) observed he's way, way better.

With Trek, for the part of the class that was on the lower field, I didn't insist she stay down there but when it wasn't our turn I let her be up on the upper field which gave her some distance and that seemed to make a difference.  We also asked Charlie's Dad not to play while Trek was running as she finds the way they play intimidating.  That plus all the training in the yard we've been doing seemed to make the difference.  No hesitation at all on the jumps or the contacts or any of the other obstacles.  I also wasn't pushing her for speed and just kept my voice pretty steady (a controlled, not stressed, excitement is sort of the tone).  Phew.  Now we'll see if this carries over to Bayteam on May 1st in 8 days.

When Trek was done with her runs and others were finishing up I put Trek away and got Yoshi out.  I had also had him out on-leash in the lower field while the earlier class was still running.  He was of course perfect on the serpentine pattern that was set out in either direction.  when Trek's class finished I had him do all the contacts and he was fine on those also.  I didn't have him weave or do tunnels since he was on leash.  I'm glad he was on leash as he tried to charge Eva while we were on the field and they were just leaving.  I grabbed him hard on the sides and lifted him up which he cried in surprised pain.  Then as we were walking out he started to growl at her and I gave him a collar correction and told him to leave it.  He did get it, but I don't know if it sank in or not as Eva got put away right then.  I so strongly never, ever want him to be a bully to a little dog anymore.  Eventually I think I'll take him to the little dog park again, but the dogs there are not always so well behaved so Trek's class (and the obedience classes) are actually a better way to go for right now.

So there's hope for each dog.  It's so nice to be able to have Yoshi around other dogs without him yelling/screaming at them.  He actually walked past Fletcher (a dog that he's bitten before when Fletcher surprised us and Yoshi slipped his collar) with no problem.  I don't know if I took pictures of it or not but I made a little failsafe attachment that is a second attachment to his regular collar instead of the martingale so he can't get away like that again

Tonight he was barking in the bedroom on the bed, and we were able to verify that the most effective way of getting his attention is his name.  We tried "come" and "here" and just about anything else and nothing was getting through to him, except by calling his name loudly every 3 seconds.  It's surprisingly effective as he starts to cry and come back when you call him by name.  It's pathetic sounding but it means that he's desisting and just protesting it but complying.  When he does this cry it means that he's telling us that it's really hard to do what we're asking but he's going to do it.

Thu Apr 22
Trek Walk at noon.  I didn't have to drag her out this time.  In fact she was happy to go. No martingale this time.  I think I'm going to give her Yoshi's quick release collar for agility.  She seems to dislike things being dragged over her head so this would work around that.

Yoshi early evening walk.  Went over to walk around the school perimeter as we usually see dogs that way.  Sure enough there was one that he's seen before (and barked at).  They were ahead of us walking very slowly, we crossed the street so we could catch up to them.  We walked past them without a peep from Yoshi, then he sat and we let them catch up and he did great.  Kept a careful eye on them but not even a grumble.  We then walked past them again and crossed back to their side of the street when we were in front of them.  His owner must have though we were hazing them though she hear me parsing him so I'm sure she figured it out. 

He's doing so much better now, I have to figure out what a good gradual next step would be.  Tomorrow he's going to Lori's Utility class so that will be a good way to get a measure of things.  He did well last month so I'm hoping he'll do well again.  I was hoping I could get him to the open class but I don't think I'll be back from Trek's eye appt in Fremont in time.  Her appt is at 8:15 and that would put us back around 9:45.  That might work as the class order is Novice 10am, Open 11:30 (sits and downs around 11:15), and utility at 1pm, and the club takes about 25 min to get to.  It more depends on how hard I want to work and if I have time to cut up a whole bunch of treats.

Wed Apr 21
Yoshi walk.  I was thinking that we weren't going to see any dogs when suddenly one showed up right in front of us 3 houses down.  We did a U-turn and went back to the corner and crossed the street hoping we could walk past them on the other side, but there was another dog on that side of the street.  So we retreated 2 houses down the side street and waited.  First dog turned the corner and walked away from us.  Next dog crossed the street and conveniently walked down the street we were on so we actually did get to do some work.  this dog was moving slower so we paralleled with them for a little bit and just sat and watched them while they stopped to chat with someone.  After a bit we then moved on.  No real reaction from him at all.

Right near the end saw another dog across the street.  This time at first I just let Yoshi keep walking but he started to get more stiff as he watched the dog.  So I told him to sit and interestingly enough he seemed to relax.  Odd how having him in motion makes him more tense.  Not what I would have guessed though he's ok with U-turns now.

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We were at a gathering of friends and one of them told me that she dreamed that I gave her Yoshi.  Intrigued, I said "Wait, you would want him?" (She's housesat for us, so she knows him some.)  Several people there observed that getting an already trained dog sounded like a good deal to them.  I assured them that while he's a lot better than he used to be that he's no where near perfect.  She observed that I've recent wrote that he's now surprisingly resilient as long as there's no dogs, and she was wondering how he would be in SF.  I told her that there's just enough chaos in the city that it would be pretty hard for him since he likes to try to keep track of everything.  It was a pretty touching conversation. (Though he's in no danger of being given away since I wouldn't wish him on anyone. Though all this time I haven't let others walk him, but now they probably could though I'm a bit paranoid of him unlearning all his good habits.  And I appear to be over using "though.")

Tue Apr 20
Noon walk.  I was going to take Trek, but she looked at the martingale and walked away.  Guess she doesn't like it.  Maybe I'll just bring it along and use it only if she's puling.  As a result, Yoshi came right up so he got to go instead.  Trek looked a little put out, but not enough. :)

We'll see what happens this evening.  Nothing of note happened on the walk, save for saying hello to the school crossing guard.

Trek is definitely fine on all the equipment I have out in the yard so we'll see if that translates over to Sharon's.

Trek evening walk.  She is so funny sometimes.  I had to carry her out of the house even without the martingale.  But!  Then she was suddenly fine - more than fine.  My across the street neighbors were playing basketball and she was able to walk past that without running or dragging me.  She could even stop and eat treats both leaving and returning later.  I guess this makes her the Other Head Case but she's able to work through fears much quicker sometimes.  Now it's to get her to actually love agility so much that she'll do it even when the conditions aren't perfect.

Mon Apr 19
Yoshi Walk.  Those milestones we've been hitting are not just a fluke.  Today we had two different dogs walk by directly across the street while he sat and watched them and then looked at me and ate treats.  The first one I kept tightening the leash and saying Stay.  But the second one I didn't do it as much.  The second dog (older Golden) was diagonal across from us and then after a bit crossed the street and Yoshi was fine!  Telling him that he has to do something incompatible with lunging is really making a difference.  Stay is much clearer than Leave It though I use that a lot as well.  But when I need him to keep his head giving him something unambiguous is really making a difference.

Also passed by kids bouncing two balls and was really glad that Trek wasn't with me.

Trek Walk.
Walked right by some kids who she was a little worried about but the weren't bouncing a ball.  She did note people putting out trash cans and opening and closing the lids, but that's something that happens once in a while and not continuously.  Said hi to a neighbor who patted her on the head which she always finds a little weird but likes the attention so puts up with it.

Both dogs in the backyard for toy play.  Yoshi was really wanting the rabbit fur toy so we played a little with it but I could tell that he wanted to go dig a hole for it so I gave him a tennis ball and Trek and I played fetch with the rabbit fur toy.  I need to order more of them as this one is going to fall apart eventually.  Both dogs seem really happy right now which is nice to see.  Both would hop right up on the table without hesitation.  Trek is great on the teeter and will send over the jump now.

Sun Apr 18
Yoshi walk.  Saw some wee dogs behind us   I stopped and let him see them from a 2 house distance and that was ok.  Them we walked around the corner and stopped about 1 1/2 house width and waited for them to reappear behind us.  They crossed the street behind us and Yoshi boofed a little, but in general was ok.

Trek backyard agility.  Got a series of toys out and it's the rabbit fur toy that worked.  She'll run with me and jump over jumps now if I have the toy and throw it sometimes.  Geez, I thought Yoshi was a head case.

Just for the heck of it did some work on the equipment with Yoshi and he was great.  Sigh.  We had a little conversation on the table about how he could have been an agility champion.  I'm not sure if he completely understood me. ;)

Feeling pretty wistful.  I have two dogs either of whom could be quite good at this but they are both handicapped by their issues.  I fantasize that Yoshi will one day be ok with everything but that's not looking very likely.  I have made him mostly manageable but he does poorly when he is surprised or uncomfortable.  Trek's issues I don't have a good handle on but she seems to work through them pretty quickly but then another one will appear.  Fortunately I've seem other people work through these sort of things with their dogs so I know it's workable, but it's such a pain sometimes and it all makes me miss Cali so much.  I guess this speaks well of my puppy raising ability, but I think that both dogs would still have their issues if I'd raised them but maybe just less so esp. Trek.

Though on further thinking about Yoshi, there were some things that likely couldn't help but get worse when he came here.  The breeder did a great job of exposing him to all sorts of places and situations (though he was weird about unknown dogs even then to a certain degree), but he was happily in the middle of a pack.  When he came here he suddenly found himself one of two dogs so he very quickly over-committed himself to over-protecting us as he feels that's his job.  I keep trying to convince him that that's not really necessary and I'm only occasionally successful.

Trek on the other hand was the breeder's pick and she spent the first two years hardly ever going off the property.  She has a fantastic temperament and gets along with all dogs but she really doesn't like new situations at all.

Sat Apr 17
Worked in the backyard.  Trek is hesitant about running along with me going over jumps.  This is weird.
She's fine about the table now.

Fri Apr 16
Barking fools today at the contractor, but the doors are done so things are calming down.

Trek Agility tonight.
She started out fine I worked with her by herself on all of the contacts and weaves and she was great.  She was ok in class until another person started playing with their dog during her run and she stopped completely.  We had the other person stop which helped some but she still seemed hesitant.  Going up to the upper field she really wasn't interested in working much and I had to go very slowly through the course, though once I got her going she seemed better.

Later we discovered that she didn't want to hop on the table at all unless I was kneeling down on the other side of it and begging her to hop up.  We worked on it for a while but she was still hesitant.  About a month ago she missed a 20" table and got T-boned and hasn't liked them since which is a real shame as the table is her favorite obstacle.  When that happened I should have gotten the table out right then.

When we got home I got the table out and she still didn't want to go on it.  So I got Yoshi and he of course immediately happily hopped up and did a great down (just to rub it in).  Trek is up on the Teeter watching.  Y and I did this about 3 times, and she came off  and hopped up with him.  Then I started sending both of them to the table.  Trek was hesitant at first, but then was hopping up right away with Yoshi. 

Thu Apr 15
I have a contractor working on our garage carriage doors and he came in the kitchen and Yoshi sounded like he was going to rip the guy's ankles off (I had a firm hold of Yoshi's collar.  Later I put Yoshi on a leash and let him meet him outside and of course everything was fine because we weren't in HIS house or HIS yard.

Took both dogs to work to keep them out of the way and so I didn't worry about them.  They mostly stayed in the car (since the sunshade on the roof keeps the car remarkably cool), but I got tired of having to always go check on them so I brought them in my office.  Yoshi in a crate and Trek just loose. 

Dog walks.  At work I took both dogs on a brief walk.  I never walk them together since Yoshi takes so much of my attention and he's overly protective of her.  We were on our way back and there was a dog behind us who then crossed to the other side of the street.  I decided to let them catch up to see how Yoshi was about this with Trek around.  No change really.  He was completely in "Get that Dog" mode and I had to sit on him to make him sit.  Trek is completely like: what-ever.

So in the evening I took him on a walk by himself.  Very different.  We saw 3 dogs and he was able to sit for all of them.  The first one was a GSD - no problem.  The 2nd was a medium sized white dog who decided to walk right towards us and we escaped across Central and Yosh was then able to sit and let them pass.  He complained a little when they were crossing to outside of the street but generally was fine.  The 3rd was a chunkier medium size labX and he was ok with them too.

Trek walk.  Came across some kids bouncing a ball and she wanted to run past.  I often called her back to feed her which she would do but she was getting into chomp mode because of her stress, but she wasn't nearly dragging me as much as she's done before.

Wed Apr 14
What a strange feeling.  My dogs are good at things that I'm not good at and vice versa.  Frustrating.

I just got back from 4 days of herding in Southern Calif.  I am not good at herding, but am learning though my interest may be flagging since herding is pretty hard.  However it's so remarkable watching Yoshi work that I feel I owe it to him.  I think the project now is to show him that he can move stock while going slower.  Which means that we're going to be spending a lot of time in the round pen.

My passion is agility and I really want Trek to enjoy it.  She does but only under specific circumstances which narrows down her odds of doing well.  The biggest obstacle (sorry) is that she is leery of contact equipment and will often run past it.  (She flew off a teeter once and really hasn't been the same since).  When she's not stressed she has no trouble with any of the contacts, but any stress makes her run by them

Tomorrow my agility peers are leaving for 4 days of agility at Haute Tracs in Dixon and I'm feeling sad (even though I usually only do 2 days of it anyway).  I really want Trek to enjoy playing this game.

Tue Apr 13
Trek Power Paws class
Didn't want to do the contacts at all even when wearing a thundershirt.  Finally got her to go over the dogwalk a couple of times.  I'm really going to have to work on getting there early and working with her on them.  She's so funny as she'll usually do them all at least once but then decide she doesn't want to do them any more.  I really need to keep working on changing her attitude about them.  She gets fed a lot around them, I think I'm going to work more toy play in around them too.

I also need to get versions of some of her favorite toys on a rope to tug though that makes fetch difficult for her. I've been mostly using the AirDog toy, but the rabbit fur toys have short handles on them and she can still carry them so maybe using that is best.

Mon Apr 12
So it's now time to focus back on Trek and agility.
I need to see if she can go to Power Paws class tomorrow since the rain is leaving soon and it should be clear tomorrow (Just found out - she can - hooray).  If we get to go then I'm going to have her wear the Thundershirt to see if it helps her around the noise of the contact equipment.

Trek evening walk
A person occasionally bouncing a basketball was walking by on the other side of Central so I had Trek eat treats while they walked by.  She did it!  And she didn't totally chomp on me because of her stress.  She didn't seem as jumpy as she usually is when those kind of hard-edged percussive sounds happen.

Yoshi's Weezie lip piercing continues to improve.  The hole is closing.  And the swelling is down to a small gumball.

Sun Apr 11
Back from the Southern Calif Corgi Herding trial.
Yoshi now has the first leg of his PT.  Him quitting on Sat (see below) meant that he was doomed to to have me as handler today.  While not a train wreck, it wasn't pretty, but we did get through it.

I really like how Judy is with Yoshi.  She has a very calm style which really seems to help a lot.  He worries about her some (she carries a crook instead of a wand), but he's not afraid of her.  She's also really good at teaching people where they needs to be and how to use your body to direct the dog which is something I'm not good at.  One thing I notice on the tapes is I lean over too much and she stands upright.  It just occurred to me that when I make him stop I'm standing up.   I'm going to be spending a lot of time comparing the tape of me and Judy.  I don't think the tape is worth putting on you tube as it's not really helpful to watch it since you can only see part of the run because of the solid fence.  if we do this next year I might lobby for a ladder or something.  Judy also said that moving less helps - meaning less arm waving (you still need to walk), and she has people do a fair bit of backing up.  I can back up (heck in agility I can run backwards), but when there's a lot going on and a lot to pay attention to I prefer to turn around and walk forward so I don't have to think about not tripping.

If Judy were only closer to me.  6 hours is a long ways (5.5 plus one stop for gas and potties) .


To Corgiherders:
We're back in the Bay Area (only had to swim for part of the trip).

Thanks to all of the S. Calif Corgi people for putting on such a nice trial.

Yes it was chilly, but given that the practice days were in the 80s I'll
take it.

Yoshi was running so well for Judy on Friday that I had her handle him
on Sat for his first PT run, but halfway through he quit and went
looking for me.

Which doomed him to be stuck with me for Sunday, which we did get
through in a very rocky fashion (I just saw the video).
He's brilliant with handlers who know what they're doing, and with me,
while not a train wreck any more, it's not pretty.

What amazed me was even with all the flailing around in the middle of
the run (we lost the sheep once and it took a while to get them back)
the entire run was only 5 minutes.

I really, really liked getting a chance to meet everyone and put faces
to emails.

Now to figure out when to try for that second leg.

Thanks again it was fun,

Ellen and Yoshi (1/2 PT) JHD


For those who were wondering what Jerry and Doug were teasing me about 
after Yoshi's PT run on Sun.

After we cleared the last gate the sheep and Yoshi took off for the
gate. When I caught up to them at the gate I asked the judge what point
I needed to go back to and she said I could just pen them. I was so
surprised I said "You're kidding."

Ellen G. tells me that it was because Yoshi was with the sheep that we
didn't have to go back.

The judge's last comment was: Well, he's a little fast.
Tee hee.

Basically Jerry and Doug were saying (jokingly): never ask the judge if they're kidding.
By the time we got to the gate, I knew we were going to pass regardless if we had to go back to another point, so I wasn't very worried.  They're pretty casual about the Test levels, once you've done the requirements.

All in all it was a really fun experience and I'm really going to nag the N. Cal. people to go even if they don't feel "ready."  I had decided that I wasn't going to continue in sheep with Yoshi since typical (read lighter) trial sheep make him crazy, but he could do Judy's sheep. so Started might be a fun thing to do for next year.

But for now, I'm just going to work on calming him down around sheep and how to just move slower.  If I get anywhere then I'll consider taking him to Vacaville to get that second PT leg, but I don't want to take him back there until I absolutely know he's ready.



Behaviorally Yoshi did very well at the trial.  Occasionally he would grouse at a dog approaching (esp. the occasional non-Corgi or non-BC) but I was careful about dog's passing by and sometimes just covered his eyes which still makes a big difference.  I think he thinks that Cardi's are small BCs unless they are acting "funny" or out of control in his mind. His strongest reaction was to an Aussie and what looked like a Clumber Spaniel puppy. I did have him wear the Thundershirt, but didn't notice a huge difference (maybe some) like I do with Trek.  Turned out that it was good for keeping the nasty burrs off some.

Sat Apr 10
So I did have Judy handle him on Sat since she did so well with him on Fri, but half way through he quit and went looking for me.  But I was still really glad I had her handle him as I got to see how she handles him (though he was a lot more hesitant this time perhaps because he could tell I was nervous.)  I did get this one on tape and when reviewing it, and after watching the sheep for most of the day I could tell that we could do it, and suddenly I wasn't all the nervous anymore.

I wasn't allowed to say anything which killed me as all I probably needed to do was tell him it was ok and to go on.  The solid walls of the arena made that harder too as he couldn't easily see me.

Fri Apr 9
The reason I sometimes have someone else handle Yoshi is it's such a joy to watch him work with someone who knows what they're doing.  I get to be the proud parent in the audience which is pretty cool.  Everything is much calmer.  Even now that I can get him to stop (phew), he still works too close and buzzes around if there isn't someone there insisting that he stay out further.

I had Judy work with him (she said it was ok to use her name) and it was so wonderful to watch and I really wish I had it on tape.  He was looking for me and even though he could see me, he did eventually quit and went over to the gate to get me.  Judy was able to get him back once but he quit again.  She said it was up to me if I wanted to do the handling tomorrow or not.  Given how much further she's gotten than I've been able to yesterday and today (I've only been able to do the course with Judy or Ellen being there keeping him out of the in between the sheep and the fence) I think I'd like to take the chance and have her do it.

Thu Apr 8
Herding Practice.  With a lot of help Yoshi does fine.  Without help I'm pretty lost so I don't know.  The sheep are great, but if we're not on top of things they will simply turn around and go back to the gate to their pen (the "draw").  The first set was worse about this than the second, but I had more help with the second set.  Well tomorrow is another day.  I had two different great people helping me and that was fantastic.

Near the end of the day I was looking at Yoshi and noticed that he appeared to have a small golf ball in his lip.  Looking more carefully I found an infected puncture wound on the inside of his lip, but nothing on the outside.  Fortunately one of the people there was a vet and took a look and concluded what I already pretty much had decided.  That he got to go visit a vet today.  Fortunately AJ was able to get us into her vet so we didn't have to pay the emergency room rates which I was quite happy about.  The vet (Dr. Leigh which is actually her first name since her husband is also in the practice - cute), said that we had fortunately caught it early so antibiotics (Clavanox) and the oral rinse that they gave him would probably be enough.  (True.)

Wed Apr 7
Travel day to Southern Calif.  Yoshi's such a good traveler he did fine.
The only problem was that we spent a lot of time carefully introducing Yoshi and AJ's dog Weezie, (slow indirect on-leash approaches), even backing off when she raised a lip at him, but then when I thought it was going to be ok, he did his rude push up into her face and she responded by clamping down on his nose, which so totally surprised him that he didn't respond until we pulled them apart.  Then he exploded with some very fine cursing as I carried him off.  We looked at both dogs and didn't see any blood or scrapes and concluded that she had only gripped him, though it certainly felt pretty strong when we pulled them apart.

It's tough when both dogs are gripping or are likely to be gripping as you can't just pull one dog's jaws off the other or risk being bitten.  You're supposed to raise them up by their legs, but I have yet to do that as I worry about being bitten by a flailing dog and it's hard to hang on to jerking thrashing dog legs.  I much prefer the back to the neck grab as it's very easy to control a dog that way, but you risk pull apart injuries.

Tue Apr 6
Trek noon walk.  Walked past a leaf blower and some noisy kids.

Yoshi evening walk.  I've been trying to find ways to sometimes get his dog distance a little closer than a street width.  Though I'm pretty happy with a street width.  Saw two dogs walking slowly ahead of us and we caught up to them and then stopped while they were stopped to pick up poop.  One of the dogs barked at us, but we weren't that close, so we sat for a little bit.  Then we crossed the street and walked by them.  I do have to remind him to leave it when passing them (same dog was barking a little, but he did great.  We got to the corner about a house and a half width ahead of them and after some internal debate, we crossed the street which involved crossing their path(!)  He was fine.  A little concerned but ok.  We were both so focused on them that he wound up walking right past a small dog on the lawn who fortunately wasn't paying any attention.

Then across Central there was a RottieX and we sat and let them walk by.  The owner said that Yoshi was a cutie (he probably was just sitting there looking cute and eating goodies.)  I said thank you and silently hoped he wasn't going to suddenly ruin the illusion.  He didn't.  Phew.  I think he's really getting somewhere.  Now I have to focus on pushing this a little but not pushing him past his limit.

So tomorrow Yoshi and I head down to LA for the Corgi Herding Trial.  I am really stressed about it though we're going to be practicing for two days which should be plenty of time to see if an attempt at his PT is at all in the cards.

Mon Apr 5
Yoshi noon walk.  Uneventful except for we saw the Corgi and Golden who often walk at this time.  He's seen them before so we only went about 1/2 a house width distance away while they crossed the street right at us.  I made him sit - it was hard for him but he did it.

Trek walk fine.

Sun Apr 4
It's raining lightly today.  I took both dogs on walks and surprisingly they we're complaining or moping about it.  Though Trek is being a little strangely passive aggressive.  A dog is barking outside so I put Yoshi in a down near me.  Trek came by and I asked her to down also and I got this "you've GOT to be kidding me" look (she's still a little wet and it would be on a wood floor but that really shouldn't be a big issue.  After asking her a couple of times she actually stalked off and hid under Terri's feet.  I went and got a treat for Yoshi and sure enough Trek followed me over to the treats.  After giving Yoshi his treat, I asked Trek for another down and got the same look.  After getting the same response again I then fed her half to Yoshi.  Now she's pouting and hiding under Terri's feet (both are).

One of the owners of Yoshi's reactive littermates is trying a different GABA containing supplement and says that he seems actually happy (a change).  It's called Anxiety Control for Pets and is from the Pain and Stress Center.

Ingredients
Magnesium Oxide, B6, GABA, Glycine, L-Glutamine, Passion Flower, Primula Officinalis, and Gelatin Capsule
(no mention of amounts)
and they say to give it to them pretty often:  As a dietary supplement, use 1 capsule for your pet every 4 to 6 hours
I hope the bottle has amounts though if it's patented they might not say.

Intrigued I ordered some (~$18)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LZA838/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

I only give GABA to Yoshi once a day, but I've been considering cutting it in half and giving it twice a day.

Sat Apr 3
What a fun day.  Yoshi's breeder Elizabeth is in the state so we all went down to Fresno to say hello and talk with her and let Yoshi spend time with his grandma.  Her mom (whose house we were at) now has another dog, a small to medium sized white dog (a little larger than your basic LWFD), but is just the type of dog that Yoshi is usually completely snotty to.  While it would have been great training to work with this dog, it really wasn't the point of the visit and that dog was really wanting to push forward right at his face to say hello which was not going to help Yoshi to feel comfortable so we put Yoshi in a crate and let Trek socialize with him.

We let Trek and Neruh in the yard and went inside for lunch.  I occasionally would look out the window at them and initially they were wandering around the yard together but then I noticed that Trek seemed to be hanging around the door more.  I finally went out to check on her and found her completely stress panting in that "Where have you been?!" sort of way so I went and got the other soft crate that we had brought and then let them in so that Neruh could go inside and Trek could go in a crate.  Best laid plans as this meant that Neruh was approaching Yoshi who is in the other crate and he exploded in barking and I turned the crate and blocked his view.  Not quite getting it, Neruh is still wanting to approach so I get him to go in the house and then let Trek hop in the crate I had for her.

I was commenting to Terri that it's great for your ego to have a dog like Trek who is so bonded to, but it's a royal pain sometimes when you want to leave her with someone else.  Fortunately as long as she is in her house or a quiet crate she doesn't get separation anxiety.

It was fun to catch up with E and what she's up to and to get her thoughts on Yoshi (though she hasn't seen him in 5 years).  Most primary in my mind is whether to continue with herding since it may be increasing his stress level, but that's only when the sheep are stressed.  I explained that the demands of herding were helping his behavior since it requires a stop and sometimes a stay that I never thought he could do.  She mentioned that the hard thing about herding is that it's so much better if he could do it every day instead of twice a month.  This lead to an amusing conversation about ducks and the fact that in Alameda you can have up to 6 ducks as pets.  She thought that would be a great way for him to practice, but I'm not about to sign up to take care of 6 ducks, just so my dogs can herd them.

Yoshi got to spend time with Larry, her dog loving sweetie, which is always good for Yoshi as he needs more men in his life.  And Trek and Yoshi demonstrated their silly play behavior.


We talked about his OCD tendencies.  She reminded me that he used to watch planes, in particular the light glinting off them.  I mentioned that now he lives next to an airport he pays no attention at all to planes.  However if a butterfly is in the yard he will chase its shadow until we notice and distract him from doing it.  I forgot to mention the depth of his laser pointer obsession and that before I decided it wasn't good for him I actually used it to get him over the teeter for the first time.  The thing that made we realize just how obsessed he was was after letting him chase a laser pointer he continued to look for it for 20-30 minutes after it was gone.

She thinks he might still be able to do obedience.  I mentioned that I didn't like to have him off lead when not inside a fence because of his reactiveness even though he is getting better.

She observed that her getting tough on him for his outbursts really made a difference for her and that she could take him to horse shows then (as a puppy).  I mentioned that in my experience whether a correction would have the desired effect depended on how worried/afraid of the other dog he was.  If he's just being a jerk, then telling him to knock it off worked, if it's a dog he's truly worried about it just makes things worse.  I also mentioned that I can get him to sit and watch a dog walk who is across the street which is way better than he used to be.  For fun I had the dogs do a sit stay while I was jumping up and down about 25 feet away.

I guess the test of that is to start doing more obedience matches and maybe even have him do Rally Novice (over and over again).

Fri Apr 2
Rainy today - started out on a walk with Yoshi and turned around

Trek class tonight though.

[later]
Ok that was a fortuitous set of factors.  I left work at 5pm and at that time class was on, but Rachelle had gotten there and it was pouring so she ran home and canceled class (there's a message board we all use)  I had already committed to going to class so I didn't check just before I left (I have to hustle to make it as it is), so when I got there I was the only one there.  The rain had gone and it was lovely. 

I climbed up on the hill to find a cell signal and left a message for Rachelle and she called me back (which involved climbing back up to that spot) and she told me about what had happened and that I was welcome to practice.  Cool.  By herself she did great on all the equipment including all the contact equipment.  We also worked on some harder weave pole entrances but she's not quite ready for that but if I line her up she does great at them.  Her driving forward for jumps is not that great, but then I got an Air Dog toy out and she went bounding after that even over jumps.  I'm thinking I should change "go tunnel" to just "tunnel" as too much verbiage confuses her.  She loves that new Air Dog toy so much I think I should make a habit of using it.


Thu Apr 1
Flat footed moment on a Yoshi Walk.  We were at a corner and there was a small white dog coming towards us on a side street, but across the street.  We stayed there while I wondered if they were going to keep coming at us or turn down Central.  They did and we had to move quickly with Yoshi objecting some.  If we had crossed the street before that it would have been fine, but he was able to sit when we got across the street.

Trek walk.  Fine.

Wed Mar 31
Ok I've done it.  I've committed Yoshi to going down to S. Calif for herding practice Thu and Fri and I'll decide then whether I let him near the ring during the trial or whether we're just tourists.

Yoshi Walk
I really think we're getting somewhere.  Saw a small dog 1/2 a block away across the street - this dog was the size of a Dachshund but short lab like yellow fur and a slightly curly tail.  I put Yoshi in a sit and we watched that dog come towards us and walk by us (still across the street).  Yoshi sat pretty much the whole time save for standing up once when they were right across from us.  i made him sit again and he booffed once but immediately sat and asked for another treat (he's had quite a few).  These are not the soft easy to gulp down treats, but more harder crunchy treats where he has to take a moment to chew which slows things down nicely.  I'm very happy with him, and he is starting to really get what is expected of him.

Tue Mar 30
Yoshi walk - uneventful save for him bristling at someone carrying a white grocery bag (oh please.)
I still can't decide whether to go to the S. Calif. Corgi Herding Trial.  Yoshi has one more chance to practice and it could easily get rained out.  If it were one of his trainers handling him he'd be fine but with me it could be a struggle depending on the sheep.  It occurred to me while on our walk that just squeaking by isn't really how I want this to go.  I want us to go in confident knowing that we can do this.  For his JHD we had practiced and practiced and I mostly knew we'd likely be ok.  I don't have that feeling now since our training has been so mucked with by the weather and circumstances.  So for this second now I'm leaning towards no.  Which is a bummer as it would be fun to watch a bunch of Corgi's herd again.

I just heard about a Corgi in the nationals that stopped to sniff (a stress reaction) during a final run when the crowd started to yell and cheer.  I'm trying to imagine sound sensitive Trek in those circumstances and I doubt she's even get to the starting line - even with all the work we're doing on sound desensitization.

If she has PP class tonight (it might rain) she's going to be wearing her thundershirt and we'll see if that helps her with the teeter sounds.

They are going to risk having it but I'm not feeling well enough to make the drive down.

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I have this great video of Yoshi and Trek playing that I need to edit and upload.  It's cool because it shows all the signals they use to play all the while Yoshi making these horrible sounding growling noises but isn't biting down at all and in fact Trek is happily kicking his rear and chewing on him (which is loves).  i just have to figure out whether to use text or voice over.  I've never done voice over so that might be fun.  Or I could make text jpgs and import them into iMovie since the text of the version I have isn't that great for large portions of text.

The main points I want to illustrate in the video is the array of subtle signals.  In particular the pauses, the head turns, the shaking, and the other choreography.  We humans have a hard time getting past the awful sounding growling which it turns out is just show.

Mon Mar 29
I had to have a lengthy medicat procedure done today so no walks for doggies.
It's now the evening and there's a dog barking and Yoshi keeps barking back.  During a lull I spied the Survivor buff that falls off of Trek, so I put it on Yoshi.  It fits him better since he has more fur and the cool thing is that there isn't any velcro for him to try to take off.  It just put pressure around his chest.  He immediately jumped into a snuggler and isn't fussing right now.

He'll pop up and bark, but seems to settle down faster.

Sun Mar 28
Just ordinary boring walks for each dog

Sat Mar 27
Yoshi Thundershirt walk
I think it helps him when he's trying to do the right thing.  When he's surprised I'm not sure it matters.
3 dog encounters
1 was Ruby a sometimes reactive dog wanting to charge after him when she was coming out of her house.  Fortunately her owner had her on leash and promptly took her back inside.  Yoshi did not react at all while we we sitting at the corner (her house is facing that spot).  For completeness I had Yoshi do a quarter turn so he wasn't facing them and could continue to earn treats until they had left.
Then we walked on and decided to walk over to the park to see if we could see any dogs since it was the middle of the day.  Flat footed moment for me was, a dog and his person across the street lept out of nowhere charging down the street and Yoshi started to charge after them.  I got him back with out much difficulty and they immediately disappeared as soon as they appeared.
We went into the part to see if there were dogs and one small to medium size one was walking with her family at us on the path.  We went into the center of the front grass and sat and watched them walk by.  Not a peep from him.  Would he have done this without the thundershirt?  Probably, but he seemed to be having an easier time of it.  We were around 25 of my paced away which is just over 60'.

A good test of this would be to take him to agility class and have him watch a little.  Or take him to an ODTC match, but I'm going to be likely out of town for that because of the S. Calif Corgi herding trial which I'm leaning towards going now.

Trek hike.
We went to Redwood Park.  I had resolved to do just an out and back hike but we took a turn and you could see where we'd started so she seemed happy to do that.  What was funny is that it was very similar to a hike we had done before where I had to beg her to continue but it was in the other direction.  We went from the District Office Parking lot Down Golden Spike, then Montrieo, then Dunn and back.  But now I realize that can't be right and there must be another connecting trail now as Montrieo is very steep and we went on anything like that.  I'm thinking we took a cut off from Golden Spike over to Dunn.  About 2 miles which makes sense as the one she was trying to quit on was 3 miles.

Fri Mar 26
Yoshi noon walk.  uneventful save for us chasing another dog for a bit.

Trek has class tonight.  She's going early to see if that class stresses her less.

Didn't get there early enough but still wandered around them some.  And Trek's thundershirt had come in and we were trying it out.

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I received the dog's Thundershirt (http://thundershirt.com) in the mail today.  I was a little surprised at how flat it folds (comes in an envelope not a box), but when I took it out I could tell it is very well made.  It's a stretch material that wraps around them and you can fit it on them snugly (it also has straps that go over the chest.)  Also the color is much darker and prettier than it is in the photos

First impressions
Trek loves it, Yoshi keeps trying to take it off.

Trek has been having a hard time in agility class because of her sound sensitivity and I was pretty sure I was going to have to take her out of class.  I wound up having her wear the shirt for entire class because it doesn't get in her way.  She seemed to do a lot better tonight while wearing it, and she actually seemed to have a nice time.

When we got back Terri told me that Yoshi had been reacting a lot to sounds and barking dogs.  I put the shirt on him and while it seems to help him relax when there's not a trigger, when there is he reacts the same and then starts trying to chew the chest straps on the shirt. I even held him while a dog was barking and his heart was just hammering in his chest - poor guy - it's been a tough night for him - I should of just taken him to class and let him sleep in the car. I wound up taking the shirt off of him and have just given him some of his supplement that has Valerian in it.  Tomorrow I'll try him on one of our training walks which will be a better test of it.

To see this kind of improvement in Trek I would have paid nearly $100 for, but it's only $36.  So even if it's a wash for Yoshi (calming him down is a much, much taller order) I'm still a happy camper.


I've given Yoshi 2 dropperfuls of Valerian (Richard's organics) and he is attached to me and his is still trying to bark though he's mellowing out because he's drugged now.  Poor guy.

Thu Mar 25
3 dog pair encounters. All good.  A lot of people walk their dog to Lincoln Park down Santa Clara and Central.  This is around 6:30pm

Came across the two American Eskimo dogs and we parallel walked with them for a little bit them turned around and continued on our walk.  The when we were on Central we found ourselve walking right at two small dogs.  I debated crossing the street but there were two more dogs walking toward un on that side.  So we turned around and went back to a side street and walked a house length and a house width down and waited.  and waited (small dogs not very fast).  They finally appeared and Yoshi watched them and immediately afterward the two larger dogs walk by with out a peep.  Wow.  We walk back to Central and start following them and catch up to and parrallel with the larger dogs (Aussie and a hound type dog).  When we caught up to them Yoshi seemed more up and excited, but not out of his mind at all.

Wed Mar 24
Relatively sedate dog training day (which is kind of nice.)  I was all ambitious about taking Yoshi to Wed night ob class, but that would be 4 days/nights of dog training and that feels like a little much.

Trek noon dog walk.  Fine.  Negotiated around a leaf blower but those don't bother her much.

Yoshi walk at dusk.  Also fine.  Only saw one dog a mostly black and white Aussie who wasn't paying any attention to us and even though was just across the street immediately started walking away from us.  Yoshi sat and watched the dog but a dog like that is one of the least likely ones that he would react to anyway.  (Dogs that look like Border Collies get a pass in his mind.)  While there are plenty of dogs out in early evening when it gets dusk they all seem to go away and I was at a gym class in the early evening.

Tue Mar 23
Trek has class tonight so Yoshi gets the noon walk today.  With the longer days there were almost no dogs out except for a Golden Retriever walking along with his person rolling in their garbage carts.  We stopped to watch them for a bit and the dog and Yoshi spent a couple of moments looking right at each other without incident.  The distance was the street width plus part of the way down his driveway.

The flyer for another CU type seminar put on by Kienan is out, so I filled one out for Yoshi for the more advanced class and sent it in.  This one is on Sunday May 9th.  I let other CU people know that we were going and they're thinking of going too.  I've always been the secretary for the first ones so this is the first one I've actually paid for so it seemed important to support it though I have a feeling there won't be any problem finding 15 dogs.  I can think of at least 5.

Trek Power Paws class.  The days are longer and the time has changed and now there is plenty of daylight for the class to work on the contact equipment (it's in a part of the field that isn't lighted).  And sound sensitive Trek just wanted to leave.  I coaxed her over a couple of teeters but it's when every one else does a teeter and they were doing a lot of teeters this time.  She physically flinches.  I've ordered a Thundershirt and it will be interesting to try her in that situation while wearing it to see if it helps.

At the moment it doesn't look like Trek is ever going to get used to teeter sounds.  She can be convinced to do them herself, but if she's not in control of the booming she's miserable.  Some minutes after we moved down to the other part of the field that was just jumps weaves and tunnels she started doing a lot better.  The difference was very dramatic and Debbie and I discussed that maybe I should just have her do NADAC for a while.  I'd been debating that for a while and I've been resistant to it because I prefer USDAA but if she'd be happier there then I should consider it.

I still have to decide whether to enter Bay Team.  It's my club so I should do it regardless of what we actually do, but I could actually work the trial instead which would probably be more appreciated actually.  I suppose I could just blow the whole weekend by entering her for one day and working the other.

But right now I'm just wallowing in disappointment.  I have big dreams for Trek, but she's not interested right now. :(
To have both Yoshi and Trek wash out of agility, which is my sport, is pretty crushing.  Fortunately they are both good at other disciplines but it still sucks.

And after looking at the Bayteam premium, I can't resist entering her in her usual 4 classes.  The first class is the Standard class, in the morning she's usually pretty wired and fine with contacts even though she often blows by them, and it would be really nice to get that last leg and get out of Starters with the silly 4 paw rule, next is either Snooker or Gamblers and Jumpers as the last class.  I usually have to scratch her out of the last class, but I can often nurse her through a Jumpers class so there is a chance.  This would be for Saturday May 1st.  I can decide whether I want to work all day on Sunday.  I actually have a certificate for one day.  The problem we're going to run into is that I can help her through some of the classes, but she's so not ready for Masters and I could wind us up there if I'm not careful.

WAG has two NADAC shows listed for May and June.  We should try one.

Mon Mar 22
The time has changed and the days are longer so Trek is now walked at noon and Yoshi in the evening.
Trek's walk was uneventful.  I haven't been stressing her much by deliberately walking by noise as she had been not wanting to go on walks so I'm letting her learn to like them again.
Yoshi walk.  A huge milestone. that he's been working up to this week.
3 dog encounters.  All successful.  The first time was a close one as Yoshi had stopped to poop and 2 dogs (Aussies) were approaching rapidly.  I was debating calling out to the owner to stop but Yoshi finished in time an I scooped up the poop and we went across the street, and had positioned ourselves beside a parked car where he could see up the street.  I put him in a sit and told him to stay.  The dogs appeared and I told him to stay and he boffed and looked up for a treat.  He popped up to eat his treat and the dogs are still there so I immediately place him in a sit again and repeated stay (he often reacts right at this point but placing him and telling him to stay seems to make the difference.)  sometimes I have to pull up on the collar a little as a sit cue.  This repeated a few times and the dogs moved on.  Those very same dogs had stopped to talk to a neighbor so we stopped for a bit 2 houses away to watch and then finally crossed the street and wound up walking parallel with them (us slightly behind).

Then we saw another tri colored Aussie on Central while we were sitting at a corner and I kept him in the sit while they walked past.  then later on Gibbons I had him sit and watch a yellow Lab pass by after seeing them at a distance (all of these are just across the street).  A street width is just above his threshold so he has to work hard to behave at this point but he can do it with guidance.

This is so not letting the dog make his own choices which is usually how we prefer the dog to learn.  Instead, I physically place him in a sit and insist on him staying there, but he is rewarded for making the right choice (looking at me after optionally looking at the dog).  It's cool to watch him think about it.  He is struggling, but herding has taught me that he is capable of this.  What a good boy.

Sun Mar 21
The one problem with finding the perfect spot is that other people are drawn to it too once they see you using it.  I had less than a minute up on the platform before other dog/handlers came up and we had to leave (no drama).  The trick with keeping a low profile is that people don't realize what the stakes are because he looks just like any other well behaved dog there and that if they walk at you then Yoshi might explode (which he didn't).  So we did a lot of shell game maneuvering.  We stayed on the edges and it mostly work.  Since Yoshi's trigger is dog's approaching or moving around, we were actually able to return to the platform where two other dogs and handlers were.  He wasn't sure about the small Schnauzer, but the dog wasn't moving so he was ok.  We actually got to watch some of Hazel's run with her dog until another dog approached us and we retreated.  As long as everything appeared under control he was ok but it was more when someone would break away and play with their dog that he was uncomfortable.

That was the first session I then gave him a break and worked with Trek (detailed later), then I had him out for another session and a woman started to play fetch with her poodle and he was not happy about that.  I was going to retreat further when I realized that if I wanted him to be around under control dogs then I needed to go closer not further.  This is a pretty big realization.  We often think in terms of distance threshold and Leslie talks about it, but for Yoshi there's an activity threshold.  Dog's standing still do no need the same amount of attention as dogs moving. (I think Leslie refers to this but I don't remember exactly how.)

So emboldened we just started walking around the edges of the rings and he did great (I think he was overwhelmed, but these are obedience dogs so no dog was being rude to him or even engaging him, but instead paying attention to their owners.  There was one silent scary moment when a little white dog appeared before him and I tackled him right as he stiffened.  Tasha and another ring steward got to see me grab him and hold him down which must have been funny as his face was jammed into the ground.  This is not the first time that he and I have gotten into a silent strange wrestling match with him about a small dog and the owner is never aware of what drama is being averted on their dog's behalf.

Then we walked on and after some debate I decided to walk him down a crowed aisle where we have to maneuver around dogs and handlers.  This was quite a test for him and he did great.  If a dog was approaching (moving) then I stopped him over to the side and covered his eyes while the dog passed.  CU dog owner Ann B was there and said hello to Yoshi and gave him some treats which he was thrilled about.  He was panting, but not jumpy at all.  He seemed to know that while not thrilled, he was ok.  We were then able to exit that area without any drama and then make our way back to the car (cutting through the Amphitheater area works well.  Parking way over on the edge of lot K (as close to lot J as I could get and then approaching via the Art and Education building worked very well.

So Yoshi is ready to go back to class.  I just have to be willing to spend the time.  It's a bummer as he'll never show in obedience and can only do Rally Novice but I can take him to matches and just not let him off lead, and the recalls can be one on a line.

Trek session.
This was all about: Do you like this?  Is this something you would enjoy?  She certainly liked how much calmer it was.  She didn't like rattling xpens, but that's everywhere.  she's unsure about all the dogs but sees that they're not going to eat her so that helps a lot.  I think we have a winner if I'm willing to do it.  Sits and Downs were beside a fountain which she was very, very interested in   I let her see them, but didn't let her jump in.

[Later]
Yoshi walk.  On Central saw a Shar Pei on the other side of the street.  I made him sit and hovered over him which he grumbled a little looks more and then looked back at me - YES!  This entire time the other dog is starting at him but he's not paying too much attention now,  He did look back a couple of times but never locked on.  Once the dog was behind a parked car we moved on.  I'm back to using his name before most commands as that gets his attention.  Yoshi Sit works better than Sit.  Now if he's stopped and listening to me then I can just say the word.

Trek walk.  Uneventful.

Sat Mar 20
Trek was out of eye medication so Yoshi and I went down to pick it up.  I went into the office without Yoshi to see if he could come in to say hi and Diana said he could.  In the waiting room, I saw what was clearly a reactive JRT.  Oh this should be interesting.  I waited to see if the JRT would go into an exam room but he hadn't so we went in and when JRT exploded I swiftly dragged Yoshi over to behind the counter and Diana popped a treat in his mouth.  Yoshi never got a chance to react which was perfect esp since the JRT didn't stop barking for a long time.

Later I went over to help mark rings for the ODTC obedience match tomorrow.  Yoshi hung out in the car, Until we were done and then he got to hang out with Patricia and I.  He did great with one big exception that he lept out of my arms to charge a member's Bull Dog who had just reappeared.  I still had the leash and yanked him back hard and made him sit and watch the dog.  Of course he did fine after that.  Liz Ann came over to chat and say hi to him and let me know that she wanted to take her GSD out of her van.  I backed Yoshi off some so we could watch and he did great.  It was in a parking lot with angled mostly empty parking lot and we were one row over in distance.  Later on I took Yoshi over to where Liz Ann and her dog were working and let them directly approach a sitted Yoshi and he did great.  They turned around when they got about 20' away.

Since I was just mentioning this and I'm mentioned it here before.  Yoshi has more self control than he wants to admit to.  There have been times when he's screaming at a dog and I'm holding him back.  He has had every opportunity to bite me out of frustration or redirected aggression and he never has.  This tells me that some neurons besides Get That Dog are firing.

I joked with Lori that he may start his obedience career when he's 10 and she says it wouldn't be the first time.  I could take hime to matches and tie him down for sits and downs or stay with him.

I spent a lot of time scoping out the  grounds for places that Yoshi could watch without getting pinned in.  I think we're going to approach from the Arts and Education building which is parking lot J instead of the more usual lot K.  That will place us a bit higher up so we can see better.  I think I'll take Trek too since I bould shade cloth so I can car crate them.  Things start off at 8:30 tomorrow at CSU Hayward.

Fri Mar 19
Class with Lori.  Took Trek for the Novice class then went home and got Yoshi and took him to the Utility class.
I'm quite happy with both of them and very proud of how well Yoshi did after not going for a while.
It's hard to tell if Trek is enjoying herself.  She likes the work and definitely the treats, but it's a slightly noisy environment and there was one brief doggy disagreement that she didn't care for at all even though she was across the room, and if was just two dogs growling at each other

Things we worked on were heeling head position.  Step treat, step treat, then next time two steps treat, two more steps treat.  Her heeling is a little better than that so she she didn't know what to think, so she was pretty rumped out trying to get the food.  I don't know if the exercise helped her or not.  I think if I go faster it might help.  Lori says there is no requirement that the dog look at you while heeling.  I think having the dog looking at you is artificial but if she isn't looking at me she'll start sniffing the ground so it's probably better to go with attention.

She still thinks firgure 8 heeling around other dogs is weird and she didn't want to go past the PWD though she was fine with little Spencer the CKCS.  Her fronts are good.  Lori suggested I use a cone for her to go around for finish as I have to encourage her to really swing deeply back to get lined up correctly.

We would take breaks playing rabbit fur toy fetch which she liked.

My working on Trek's Stand has paid off and she can now reliably do it.  My signal is now a fist in front of her nose and i also help her with my left hand on her tummy.  I also place her to make sure she's set and she understands that means don't move.  She will sometimes pick up her right foot if I come too close to her and Lori said that's only 1/2 a point off and I actually don't have to be that close to her laterally when returning and that it's more important to have my left leg in line with her right ear.

Lori went over that you lose your leash part of the way through the exercises and that that can be a way that dogs lose focus so we practiced taking off the leash with the left hand while they watch your right hand that you are holding up.

Yoshi.  There were only 3 other dogs in class and he was awesome.  The other dogs where a standard poodle and a britany and a GSD who was mostly just observing.  With only 3 dogs working he was able to concentrate.  His heeling was great and he knows his down signal very well and doing ok on the sit signal.  His Stand is also good.  And he is retrieving the rabbit fur toy.  He'll even sit briefly with it in his mouth.

Lori suggested that I teach him to rest his head in my hand and then work to having him hold a toy in his mouth while resting his chin on my hand.  this would be cute but I'm not sure how to transition it to my standing up and not holding his chin but it does teach him to hold a position which has merit.

Reaction wise there were only two.  He barked when Lori's Phoenix barked and he reacted pretty strongly when the GSD came back into the room after leaving for a little while.  Which is pretty predictable and i should have been watching for it.  He was fine with working around all the dogs even when they approached by accident though we did suggest they not get too close.

I'm considering starting to bring them both to the Wed night class.  Each dog on alternating weeks.

Trek Agility class
I'm so slow.  I'm finally realizing that the reason she's been less than motivated at class is that she hates that class - mostly likely due to the way that another student talks very excitedly to his dog (she's such a sensitive flower).  Last week we were up in the field by ourselves and she was fine until he showed up and then she shut down.  He's not even interacting with her, but it must be his tone of voice.  Of course his dog just happily tunes him out.  I can try to keep her away from him, but I fear that I'm going to have to pull her out of that class and move her to privates and keep the Power Paws class as her group class (so she's still exposed to some hubbub) which she likes when they're not doing contacts.  The advantage of moving her to privates is that then Yoshi gets to come too.

Thu Mar 18
Average sort of day.  Both dog walks went well.

Wed Mar 17
Much of the same this week.
Having more luck with insisting he sit for dogs.
Today we didn't have any dogs pass us but we caught up to a couple who turned off just as we caught up.  They did stop a short distance away and Yoshi was able to calmly watch them across Central and the depth of a front lawn.

I ordered him a herding flag and it came in today.  Looks like i could help park a 747 now too.

So the time has changed and my days are longer.  But I like to go to a gym class at 5:30.  Then I have the option of taking one of them to ob class (haven't done it for a while now), or entertain Trek in some other way.

So this time I was tired from class and we wanted to work on the dryer later, so I decided to take her to the dog park to see if i could get her interested in fetch.  Or just in the environment at all.  It worked much better than expected though i didn't get the chance to stand around much.  There were some dogs that she played with a little and I could get her to fetch some until another dog wanted it so i had to be careful about that, but what worked the best was to just run around with her and practice my higher happy voice which is tough for me as Yoshi needs a lower voice and my natural voice is lower.  Fortunately i don't have to use a high squeaky voice just a softer excited voice and we would then run around the small dog park.  So no real rest for me but it gave us some great running around practice and i got to experiment with what tones work best.  And went we were further away from the other dogs we could play fetch for a little while.  Given that she's looking put upon when i take her there or just eating everything, it went quite well.

Sun Mar 14
Yoshi (and Trek) Herding
So Yoshi go to go (ok return) to another place to do herding and he did great.  Well he was in a round pen and wasn't stopping well for me, but then the instructor got in there and suddenly he started stopping.  She popped him once on the nose with a flag and the every time she raised it then he would immediately stop.  She says I just wind up nagging him with my repeating stops and sits and it appears she's right and he was great for her.  Though he seems to have filed her under the crazy person which is the same completely unfair category he did with his previous instructor.  It's a fine line between getting him to keep his head around stock, or just quitting in a huff, or being too pushy like he is with me.  He does seem to respect the flag so I'm ordering him one from bordercollies.com

He also go to be put on geese seriously for the first time and he did great.  He totally was puzzled by them and kept his distance but after a few sessions he should be just fine.  Several of us are wondering if we should have made him a goose dog much earlier.  I don't know as you have to have a high degree of control to work geese well (directions -go by and away - are critical if you want to get them into a pen - watch an AHBA trial someday).

I also had Trek in the round pen and she briefly engaged with the sheep.  Possibly enough to get the first AHBA herding tested title HCT (Herding Capability Tested) which is 4 times back and forth with the sheep in a small pen.  Have to see if she's actually interested or just humoring me.  Actually even if she was just humoring me she could get an HCT.

Thu Mar 11
So these past few weeks, i've been working with Yoshi on his down on recall and I can mostly get it in the yard, but around sheep it's difficult.  Around the slower goats it works (with goats it's a stop).  Trouble is that all of his other training has to do with a good recall and being close to me.  It's pretty inherit in him to come back to me and to have him not do that is a tough one but if I want him to continue herding it's pretty imperative.

Did some work in the yard with him on remote down.  He can't help but take three steps to me and then down, but he does usually down.  It's funny he doesn't seem to hear on the first time or his response is slow (always has been some).  Trek of course does it right away though there was one exception.  I had them both in a down and told them to sit and it was Yoshi who sat.  Then I was able to tell him to down again.

Yoshi walk.  One dog but an important one.  A dog so teeny that I wasn't sure it was a dog for a bit.  They were coming right towards us on Central so we just crossed the street.  Central is a relatively wide street for Alameda so we didn't retreat further.  I had him sit and stay with me hoovering right over him with a short leash.  the dog is so small he's engaging with me at first so we play sit and treat a few times.  Then while he's on a sit he sees the dog.  I repeat stay and I'm right over him.  He rumbles a growl but doesn't move and then looks up at me.  Good dog have a goody.  I have him sit again as the dog is still just across the street and Yoshi does with some hesitation (I helped put him there.)  This time he just reengaged with out even worrying about the dog.  Cool.  Phew.

He also walked right past a squirrel stationary on the ground.  If they're not in the trees or running he doesn't seem to care.

Yoshi has a herding lesson from another instructor who doesn't want to be mentioned.  This is on sheep and I am concerned but determined to take it very slow.  She has a round pen and I anticipate spending most of our time there.

Tue Mar 9
I am reeling.  It's amazing to me that one person can completely screw one's plans up.
One of the managers at Willowside Ranch has decided that Yoshi and 4 Cattledogs are too rough on the stock and doesn't want them to come back.  One of the Cattledogs bit a sheep and so they all got banned which seems unfair to them.

During a session, we had a lighter, recalcitrant sheep that we removed after she hit the fence at low speed   Removing that sheep helped.  I don't think the manager likes how revved up Yoshi gets and how I have to argue with him (Yoshi) to make him stop.  And of course it is the manager's job to protect the stock, but this is a training facility and all is not going to go smoothly.

It totally smacks of breed prejudice which I don't normally see, but hear about, and I'm really not sure what to do.  Whether to keep training or just stop and teach him how to track.  I'm so bummed as I really wanted to make him a goat dog and ironically the regular school sheep will be back next week.  It makes me wonder if I hadn't done anything until the regular school sheep were back if we'd have been better off.

If the money wasn't such an issue I'd take him down to S. Calif for the trial anyway and just practice there.  But I don't think I want the stress and the $100/night hotel costs.  And he probably doesn't want the stress of unfamiliar sheep either.

I just don't know what to do.  I could beg HTrainer2 to let him come back to her place or do a long trip out to Nola Jones in Pleasant Grove or there's Bob Euwing in Hollister, or just go back to Obedience and Rally training which is so much easier.  When they become available I can put him in a Nosework class and see how he does with that and then if I want to spend as much time as herding takes I can sign him up to learn tracking if Debbie Best is still teaching it - I'm sure the rains have really messed with their schedule.  They can only do it until the foxtails come out and then they have to move to a park.

I'm just trying to figure out what makes him happy.  Having and maintaining order in his life seems to be paramont but herding is pretty stressful for him even though it's what he is wired to do.

I think we'll wait a little while and them ask again if he can work with the goats.  He's never hurt a goat.

Trek Agility Class
Hard as it was to concentrate, I took Trek to Power Paws for a class.  It was good to have something else to focus on besides Yoshi's situation.

It's light enough now for the first part of class that we did courses with contacts.  It was cold and the wind was blowing so Trek was revved and didn't have any contact issues for the first run and then started doing her avoidance behavior on the second run and didn't even leave the line on the 3rd, so grass is not the magic answer though it helps.

The rest of the class was on front and rear cross drills mostly with jumps and tunnels with occasional weavepoles tossed in.  Her enthusiasm would vary but given that she was most enthusiastic at the start line I clearly need to play or treat her more on course.


Post to frapfest and coltsrunkids

I am reeling.  One of the managers at the place Yoshi trains decided that Yoshi (and all 4 of the Cattledogs) were too rough on the stock and that he can't train there anymore - he was being too rough on one sheep but seemed ok when we took that sheep out.  My trainer tried to negotiate with the manager (what if she did the handling?  what if we only worked on goats?) but he wasn't having any part of it.  Apparently this guy is a sheep guy and not really a dog person though he has dogs.  The people who are really shafted are the Cattledog people.  Apparently one of them bit a sheep, so they all got banned.  I haven't run into such intense breed prejudice before.

I am bummed as I was hoping to turn him into a goat dog since he seems to do so well with them, and no one else around here has goats.  I'm going to wait a little while and then ask again.

I think I'm going to pass on the Southern Calif Corgi trial which I am sad about, but not going saves me a whole bunch of money.

The other bummer is that the heavier sheep he is used to have weaned their babies and will be back instead of the recalcitrant sheep we have now.  I do wonder what would have happened if we'd just waited for the steadier sheep to come back.




Mon Mar 8
Did a lot of relaxation protocol exercises with them in crates (lots of knocking on and unlocking of doors) before Cathy came over.  When she came they hardly reacted at all but were happy to see her.

Sun Mar 7
Yoshi walk.  It's the afternoon and lots of dogs are out walking.at least 5 dog sightings one of them repeated.  Every sinble time he was asked to do a sit-stay and over time his compliance improved.  Not surprisingly the first time (and second) was him sitting for a second and then leaping up to try to charge the dog and me repositioning him (polite term).  But over time he started to sort of get what was expected and at least to some extent go over the "oh you can't possibly mean that now - especially when there's a DOG across the street."  But he actually did kinda sort of start to get it.  Type of dog was all over the place, and he actually started to get it when a LWFD was across the street which is usually when he's at his worst.

Trek walk. Went fine except that turn for home on Gibbons where she starts to try to drag me.  I think I'm going to have to vary the route for her.  Yoshi likes the routine but I'm tiried of the last of my walk with Trek being a don't drag me conversation.  Not to mention I do want it to be good exercise for her without my arm coming off.

I was actually annoyed at Trek as I went to walk her first but she went and hid in her crate and wouldn't come out so I took Yoshi instead which turned out to be great.  I could have bribed her out but decided that my point was better made taking Yoshi first.  Terri though that she thought it was close to dinner time, but funny that she was willing to come with me after Yoshi got back and still before dinner.

Trying to decide how much I regret deciding not to take Yoshi to S. Calif.  It's a bummer but I don't think it makes him happy.  He's passionate about herding, but he's fearful about it and he really don't know how to handle himself just yet, and skittish sheep really stress him.  If I were guaranteed mellow sheep then maybe but there never are guarantees in herding.  Besides it means I save a few hundred dollars in travel costs.

Sat Mar 6
Yoshi herding
Our usual sheep have been on Mom duty and haven't been available so we now have medium sheep and things didn't go well.  He actually crashed one into a fence (relatively low speed but still not good.)  And he's just not working very well and not listening and seems stressed out.  My plan was to have HTrainer3 work with him but he didn't want to so I had to be out there also.  His anxiety level seems to match the sheep's.  So for his second run we put him on goats and he was fine.  Kinda pooped out at the end but before that wore behind them (running back and forth at the back to move them along), he stopped when asked.  We worked on his outrun and when I tried to push him out he would stop, but I must have been pushing on his head too much.

His anxiety seems to match the stock's.  So I'm thinking that we should bail on the Corgi trial and just do goats for a while (could even compete in AHBA on goats) and then maybe intro him to geese or ducks.  He's been afraid of geese in the past so I may push for the ducks that we had Trek on as I think they would be perfect even if they don't herd as well as the ranch geese apparently.

Those on corgiherders say that if he's on goats too much he'll learn some bad habits about crowding but he does that already.  I'm thinking I'd like him to learn some confidence first. Cindy T. says that sometimes they use goats for tests in Az as their sheep are too light.  Given that he's kind of a stress puppy I'm not sure if he'll ever be able to work lighter sheep and that is starting to sound fine to me - I just want him to be happy and maybe just being a goat dog is fine.  Till one takes a good whack at him.  Then he may not like it so much.  One gave him a glancing blow but he appears to have recovered about that.  They are at least more his size.

HTrainer3 doesn't want him to roll in the pasture anymore.  She wants him to think that he's only here to work.  I think he does that only from stress but ok.

Fri Mar 5
The weather gods appear to be granting us a reprieve.  Trek's class and Yoshi's lesson might not be rained out this time.

I am concerned that Yoshi is not getting enough sheep time before his PT.  Good thing we've already done the JHD so I know we can do it when I don't forget what I'm doing.  i have to remember to only go part of the way to te sheep, then I can help him with staying further out which keeps them from splitting up.

Yoshi Walk.  Working entirely on sit and stay when there's a dog passing.  Saw one dog but it went much better than I expected.  On Court approaching Santa Clara and we were withint 1/2 of a house length of the corner when I saw the dog about to cross in front of us but across the street.  i told Yoshi to sit and stay and then he say the dog crossing in front of him (small to med sized thin black dog moving at average speed.)  He grumbled but that was it and didn't move.  Good boy.  Have a goodie.  We did sit and stay semi randomly during the rest of the walk so it doesn't become a predictor of a dog.  Also sit and stayed for a woman to pass with a large package and that was fine.

I'm hoping Trek has class tonight.  Holding steady so far.

Trek class.
The weather held.  I got Trek out on the upper field and did a couple of dog walks and an A-Frame and some weaves and a few tunnels.  Then back on the lower field she did a teeter.  For all of them I made it plainly obvious that if she did them she'd get the treat I was holding.  She seemed happy to do them all.  Then in class she hesitated at the teeter and I stood there holding the treat.  She thought about it and then did it and earned her treat.

It's funny, by herself she's fine, but when others show up and the comotion increases, she starts to stress.  When the very animated Steve and Charlie show up she starts to shake (this is on the lower field).  I picked her up and let her hide in my lap behind Rachelle over on the side, and she started to relax.  When we move up to the upper field she does ok but tries to poop out on the last run and wants to look for treats.  I pinch her but and that actually wakes her up and she finishes the course.  It's possible that she gets more distracted at Sharon's because there are more things on the ground than at Power Paw's grass field.  Don't know.


Thu Mar 4
Yoshi Walk.  Beautiful break in the weather and no dogs!  Hmphf.  Hardly any people either.
Various places put him on a stay while I walked around him.  He's volunteering down even though I mostly ask for sit.
Finally say someone carry a package and another with an umbrella and he sat and stayed while they went by (across the street.)

Took both dogs in the yard and had them both do down stays while I walked and jogged back and forth.  Trek broke when i waved my arms and also gets restless over 30 seconds, but otherwise they did well but the squirrels weren't around either.  sigh.

So without triggers they both have pretty good stays.  I guess that's a start.  I'm encouraged that Yoshi's stays are actually better than Trek's but her response time is better to a cue.  He has so very much the A.D.D. "Oh you were talking to me?" thing going.  When he focuses he's great, but anything that moves captures his attention.  He's actually more OCD really as he will chase shadows if I let him.

As an alternative to a Thundershirt Debbie suggested a pack.  It's kinda hilarious to think of Yoshi with a pack but they do make his size so it's possible and it might give him the feeling that he is working.

The url is here:
http://www.ruffwear.com/Approach-Pack
We could also get it at REI.

i also have Cali's screaming pink life vest that I could put on him to see how he does with the sensation, but there's no way I'm walking around the neighborhood with him wearing it unless it's at night.  I worry about what people would think of a Corgi carrying a pack especially since my dogs are really small.  Maybe I should make him carry his poop.

Trek walk.
Ok that was not the right approach.  I took her down to Santa Clara and Broadway which is a relatively busy intersection for Alameda while still being two lane roads.  My thought was not even to go down Broadway like we did before (and she thought we'd be going down it as she started down it), but instead to go there and eat yummy treats.  She was happy to eat the treats(and chomp on my fingers), but it did nothing to reduce her anxiety and she dragged me all the way back home to the point that I deliberately overshot and went home a different way.  Near the end she wash[t draging me quite so much but it took forever as I was constantly calling her back.  On the block going back to the house she was able to work on some heeling but you could tell she was still stressed.

When we got back home i put their T-shirt on her and took her out just for a bit.  It may help a little but I really can't be sure.

Measured both dogs chest for a Thundershirt and they're both 19".  Both a small and a medium are listed as in their range so I wrote them asking what they thought best for a Corgi.  I'm thinking medium.

Wed Mar 3
I was asking CU_Dogs_SF about the Thundershirt that you can get from Karen Pryor's site which helps dogs feel more comfortable

http://store.clickertraining.com/thundershirt.html?source=mnl

And another poster asked if I'd tried a snug shirt and I realized I haven't used on for a while except to keep Trek warm at agility.
So for Yoshi's walk I put the shirt on him and off we went.  We saw one dog and his behavior was about the same.  Engaged with me until the dogs motion triggered a response from him to want to charge the dog.  I wound up correcting him for it (leash pops), but I'm not sure if it does any good.

I think I need to work pretty exclusively on Stay.  I have tried watch and leave it with mixed results but i need him to stay when I tell him to and he knows it but just not under stress except for sheep.  With sheep he's gotten to the point where I can put him in a stay and walk around to the sheep and he'll stay there.  But when the sheep are moving is where things don't work so well.  Wonder if I'll get a stay with dogs or sheep first.

Tue Mar 2
Yoshi walk
Frustrating day.
Early in the walk we were surprised by a sudden sighting of a GSD (whose owner turned around and went the other way when Y started objecting.
Then we didn't have quite enough time to set up for a dog running at us.  When I saw that they were running right at us, we were able to turn around and walk away from them and got around a corner but i only went a house length and that's not really enough space for a running dog, so we argue about that too.

Then after all that frustration, we saw two large dogs crossing his path at a distance is fine.  The distance was about a street width and over two house widths.

Trek walk.  Took her down 1 block of Broadway and she was very unhappy about that.  Think her level is High St.  Both streets should be about the same but Broadway is more frenetic for some reason.

Mon Mar 1
Yoshi walk
Went over to the school but only saw one dog.  Let him see the dog from 1/2 a block no problem.  That dog stops and we approach and hid behind a parked car.  while the dog is still stopped I try passing the dog but then that dog starts moving (not at us) and Yoshi starts barking, not horribly but enough to where I've giving him leash pops and saying leave it to keep moving.

This was frustrating.  So we go on a normal walk and practice downing at the corners instead of sitting.  I'm not sure if it's too much to ask for a down to something he wants to charge but it's worth practicing.

Also worked on down at a distance in the yard and he really wants to come closer first.  Probably should do sits at a distance also as i don't think he gets that either.  Trek does and when she's out there too she's always the first one to do it - just to annoy me I'm sure.

Trek walk.  Took her over to High St. with not that much dragging though she certainly wanted to turn off sooner rather than go on the slightly busy street.  I should probably start walking her down Broadway too, and routinely take her over to Park St.  Maybe even over to Dog Bone Alley to get treats and attention.  She's been to Park St Faires before and thought they were a little much but coped (she got carried for a lot of it.)

Cathy came over for our DVD gathering
I had Yoshi on a leash and I insisted he sit while she came in.  He was a bit incredulous, but he knows Cathy so I knew he could cope.  I had to reposition him 2-3 times (yes, really you have to sit), but he was able to hold it while she came closer and I then released him to go say hi to her.  I really liked that as it's a relatively non-stressful way he can practice self control.


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